Tuesday, August 08, 2017

No One Wants the Job

  • The city of Chicago announced Monday that applications for the next exam to become a Chicago police officer will open August 15.

    It's part of the city's plan to hire nearly 1,000 officers over the next two years.

    Officers who join the department make more than $72,000 a year after 18 months. They are also eligible for healthcare benefits, tuition reimbursement, clothing allowances and a retirement plan.
Yeah, about that benefits package:
  • eighteen months that they fire you without explanation for any infraction;
  • the healthcare benefits are rapidly eroding;
  • tuition reimbursement might not survive into the next Contract - Rahm is crying poor;
  • aldercreatures attacking the clothing allowances (negotiated in lieu of actual pay raises);
  • the retirement plan is shaky as shit;
And despite what Rahm says, you will be a political pawn for your entire career, not to mention be blamed for the last 70 years of failed social policy.

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112 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mandatory gun boxes during training - - -
just like a shine box, until you earn your stripes.

8/08/2017 12:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Been on 25 years. Use to never tell someone not to take this job. Figured who am I to shatter a dream. That has changed. I now say be a firemen or try burbs if REALLY want to be police. I hate that it's come to this. This job will only get worse. And this mayor is a total asshole

8/08/2017 12:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, you are saying this is a great career opportunity?

8/08/2017 12:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone that would consider getting on this job now is just plain nuts and should fail the pyscological just for applying. Your putting your future on the line.

8/08/2017 12:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Residency requirement drastically kills the eligibility pool !

8/08/2017 12:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shit...

Rahm can offer the test every six months
and it will be the same results.

Policing as a career has been thoroughly
shit on by the media, the Alinskyites
and their catered-to constituent race
grievants here in Chicago.

The emphasis is on prosecuting, imprisoning
and ruining Policemen instead of prosecuting,
imprisoning and ruining hardened street criminals.

The only people applying to CPD are those who
don't know/can't do better.

8/08/2017 12:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lol. They don't fire anyone.
Girl in last Academy class got fired twice and got reinstated.

8/08/2017 12:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Apparently community activists get to speak at Cpd press conferences now..watch that asshole push in to get on camera and then watch his face as Police officers speak.

8/08/2017 12:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When can I retire? I heard it no longer 20 and out with healthcare... am I supposed to retire at 68 or maybe 72 by the time I am eligible for Medicaid or whatever.... by the way I am being an asshole cause this police gig is done son

8/08/2017 12:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It was once a great job. Now it is a paycheck with a City desperately hanging onto residency in order to recoup salaries through payroll deductions, taxation, fees, and fines. There are some municipalities that don't have residency and do just fine without the cops living there.

8/08/2017 12:53:00 AM  
Blogger Baby"G" said...

Giving the test four times in six years says a lot about the perception young people have of CPD. Many of these kids are not from Chicago, and when they see that residency requirement, their families say No. Minority kids with 4 yr. degrees go to Federal law enforcement. Granted there are a few FBI agents who live in Chicago, but the ones with school aged kids prefer Naperville and other burbs. Add to all this the Arbitrary Administration of the polygraph, and lawsuits are bound to follow. Instead of wasting People/Folks time, the City should set a standard for when and how much weed or other drugs is acceptable. I have heard of some people not being hired because they smoked weed 5 yrs. ago. Is 5 yrs. the standard, or is it 6 yrs, 7, 8? If the standard is Arbitrary or based on a formula that involves race; we the taxpayers will once again be paying for the City's incompetence. And what about that psychological testing? How are we missing suicidal recruits? One thing is for sure, nobody should be hired if they did as many drugs as the last President. Stay safe, be careful, because Rahm is aiming at your backs. Baby "G"

8/08/2017 01:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And let's not forget that wonderful, highly desirable side-benefit of being a moving target. Literally.
Because the politicians and the media have riled the public into a frenzied, laser focus on us. Young applicants are smart enough NOT to choose being assassinated as part of their career options.

8/08/2017 01:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This City better offer a great raise and benefits in this next contract, to keep what police officers they have left, that wants to stay in this shithole city and shit job!

I'm ready to go myself and leave Chicago, Crook County and Illinois forever!

8/08/2017 02:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You would be an idiot to take this job. If you must, use it as a spring board within 5 years....if you can last.

8/08/2017 02:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Gran Torino said...

You have to be out of your fucking mind to apply for police officer in Chicago...being a cop is like getting kicked in the nuts around the clock. Easily the most undesired job presently at this time. Those who are cops already...stay feeeeetaaaal don't be dumb....and get another job if you can. Save yourself from this shit. ((( bless you all and stay safe.

8/08/2017 02:31:00 AM  
Anonymous The Beat and the Brightest said...

Lower the bar further.

Accept all candidates with no more than two felony convictions with the IQ scores of borderline morons. No more MMPI psychological testing or evaluations based on same. After all, most elected city and county officials would fail the MMPI psychopathia key as well as sophisticated "ethics" questionnaires.

Accept all "merit" candidates. Under no circumstances, define criteria for "merit" appointments. Exclude all of above as exempt from FOIA demands as confidential and proprietary information.

Provide free malt liquor and cigarettes to encourage all "low information" voters to get to the polls.

Celebrate Diversity!

8/08/2017 02:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey SSC i see your brothers on NYPD are boycotting Dunkin Donuts for refusing to serve a officer ... Ya think CPD should help them out ?

8/08/2017 04:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC, any rumors on any upcoming Sgt classes? Sitting 76 out. People were saying sept but I find that hard to believe, they will take a big class then. Any insight would be appreciated.

8/08/2017 05:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Officers who join the department make more than $72,000 a year after 18 months



If you last they long! Make sure you know how to spell G-A-R-R-I-T-Y

8/08/2017 05:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(OT) 1.1 million less on food stamps making America great again:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/08/07/1-1-million-fewer-americans-food-stamps-trump/

But yet we have how many in Chicago and crook county in the state of Illinois on food stamps? How many illegal invaders are on food stamps and on every other sort of government aid and the mayor letting us lose millions upon millions in government aid as he and the other elected officials violate federal immigration laws why are they not arrested?

8/08/2017 06:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, Us ponytails , working at 35th street , are liking our job.

8/08/2017 06:53:00 AM  
Blogger Mr. SouthSide said...

Rahm should take the hint.

8/08/2017 07:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I took a class at Daley College and it taught me that when NO one applies for a job something has to happen?

Hire illegals

Hire convicts

Make robots

or the pay must increase with other benefits.

I look forward to working with robots...

8/08/2017 07:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Join the CPD and you get to be supervised by political merit slugs, a superintendent that's a political hack, a short guy for a mayor and best of all you get to live in the city and pay high property taxes and you can't send your kids to the CPS. Don't forget the city stickers and pot hole filled streets. ♠️

8/08/2017 07:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Just Say'n... said...


I would not take this job if I had to do it all over again...

Say what you want about the "millennial" generation, I can see that they look before they leap. There are greener pastures out there. I came on this job, and was sold a bill of half truths, and outright lies. It became worse over the years. The residency rule is enough to turn away any decent applicant from the suburbs.

It will take at least 20 years to right this ship, if the political will to do so ever comes to exist. Otherwise, we are headed down a road that looks a lot like Detroit in the turn of the last century...High taxes causing people and business to leave, financial disaster, and poorly run government. And they will all blame it on the pension crisis!

The rats will be off the ship before it capsizes, and there will be no one left to blame. Only the rich will be left in Chicago to rule over the few and struggling poor who are too naïve to leave.

Just Say'n...

8/08/2017 07:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pawn is correct.

Retired and NOT IN LAW, NOT FROM ILLINOIS....

An old boss of mine "If it's between you and your truth and me and my job, you go to Hell!"

I cannot imagine who would want to be called every name in the book, You-Tubed, spit at, mocked, taunted, then after that hung out to dry by your (dumb as Hell) boss, then watching the news and again being hung out to dry. Looking at the newspaper and getting more of the same.

If this continues, the bad guy wins......sadly.

8/08/2017 08:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thousands will apply because those who do will never find a job paying 72,000 in 18 months and after a while be making over 100 grand with overtime. Private sector is no better even worse. Low pay, no benefits and no pensions. Why do you think we are here and stay! If the grass was greener out there we would be there. Bitch all you want but don't see anyone quiting before retiring. In fact those who end up getting fired fight to get back on.

8/08/2017 08:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Many are leaving that is true,and many are not taking the job when called! On another topic off-topic for a minute just an observation. First white Caucasian people are now 47.4% of the population in Chicago so since they are the "minority" when do the discounts start? Was at the academy recently many "people of color" in classes as recruits which is fine, but shouldn't the minority white population be entitled to minority benefits? Why for example is loyola university giving free scholarships valued at over $50,000 per year to illegals who claim minority that would be a total lie and besides that they are criminals here illegally!

Next rahm your so into helping chicagos minorities and others answer this why are so many cta iron-workers who make well over $200,000 per year living in Indiana and the far burbs of Chicago? Then we have many cranes downtown building I took a bicycle ride around many just observing mostly white (Minority in Chicago) working, but they looking at workers license plates many Indiana,and none with city stickers all living in suburbs! Went into starbucks off Michigan Av asked some of the guys at a table if they live in the city (These are laborers on the projects downtown) they said "nope don't live here and never would!"

That being said why rahm cannot you not have the companies hire city residents? You say your all for helping out the poor, why not say go into englewood,the westside with laborer jobs which pay from $30-$55 per hour plus union benefits and offer them to these people? The cta has many black employees, but yet the iron workers have maybe a handful getting these great paying jobs, guess the contractors pay you mayor and the 50 big league campaign donation style! OK alderman you read this blog everyone this is the "go to" place for you to get great information your turn are you going to call him out or are you scared?

8/08/2017 08:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To: Baby G

You always write thoughtful and insightful comments.

Please consider using paragraphs.

A large block of text is not easy on the eyes.

Have a great day !

8/08/2017 08:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Getting on this job is one thing. But to come on this job and actually try be the police ?

8/08/2017 08:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tuition reimbursement is going to survive intact, provided that your classes are taken at the Shitty Colleges of Chicago or Chicago State University.

8/08/2017 08:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To all the coppers who have not discouraged their kids from being the police your wacked in the head.

8/08/2017 08:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone who has a relative that is considering becoming a Chicago Police Officer DO NOT allow them to do it.

8/08/2017 08:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I passed the 2016 test and am still waiting for the polygraph/psych test. I've done all the background investigation paperwork with kentech, passed the drug tests, had the in home interview as well. I've also taken and passed the 2017 test and have anther lottery number. Why would there be a 2018 test, if they haven't processed all the passing score candidates from 2016 yet?

8/08/2017 08:59:00 AM  
Blogger Joker said...

When can I retire? I heard it no longer 20 and out with healthcare... am I supposed to retire at 68 or maybe 72 by the time I am eligible for Medicaid or whatever.... by the way I am being an asshole cause this police gig is done son

If you have 20 yrs and are at least 50 yrs old, you can retire. Your pension will be 50% of your last 4 years of salary. Health care is another issue. Used to be guaranteed until 65, when you hit Medicare, but that's all over. I think that issue is still being dealt with in the courts. But look on the bright side, I hear that the city will want to raise the mandatory retirement age from 63 to 67 with this current contract. That will give you 4 more years to save for retirement. You'll need it because by that time the city will have taken away EVERYTHING except your salary.

8/08/2017 09:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Lol. They don't fire anyone.
Girl in last Academy class got fired twice and got reinstated."

I work at the academy. Never heard of this one. How about some factual insight on this one?

8/08/2017 09:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What oh what will democrats do when nobody answers the call to "enforce" their ummm "democratic dictation"? And what will they do when those who answered the phishing call prior but now refuse to do anything but remain "fetal"?

Well, they will do what they are doing, blame the COPS for doing what those democrats told them to do, hanging cops out to dry left and right up and down at every turn.

We told you so. For decades we told you that your unions supporting democrats wasn't the correct thing to be doing, but you decided to brush off our warnings, for those paycheck promises and pension promises. And you also tracked toward ignoring rights you are tasked with protecting and defending all the while.

We are still trying to tell you things, warn you, share knowledge with you, and far too many of you are still ignoring us. That is what brought you to this train wreck now, so why continue it? Stop listening to the "community" and start listening to the community. Turn away from Rahm and his democrats, instead turning toward the founding and framing documents and First Principles that you are supposed to be protecting and defending. You might just be surprised at what happens when you do so.

8/08/2017 09:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just the other day, I told relatives not to even consider the CPD. Look in another state for law enforcement employment. Or go to ATF not the FBI.

8/08/2017 09:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WHO in their right fuckin mind would sign up for this shit show, much less be FORCED to live in this shit pit?

8/08/2017 09:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's not nobody wants the job, Rahm just doesn't like most of the applicants that biologically fail to meet his idea of city representation.
Besides flooding the south and west sides with advertisements, this new exam could be used for an immigration refugee propaganda stunt too.
Once upon a time it was the best job you could find in Illinois, but now it's a bit difficult to get if you're not a community representative.
I won't bash anyone for wanting or taking The Job because it's only about the 1st and 16th.

All interested persons of less than required representation should be encouraged to a chance, you could wind up behind a desk for 29 & a day or make a decent living driving around taking reports all day or night.
Do your time on a shit watch in a shit district and eventually move on.
Idiot bosses are a dime a dozen and plenty of them citywide, you won't escape that.

8/08/2017 10:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you have any skills, mechanical, carpentry, and if your family has a business in any of the trades; that's where you should be focusing. The risks now out weigh the pay and making money like $72,000 with little guarantee's, not worth it. You not only have to worry about getting psychically injured, but you have to be looking over shoulder for the politicians who are gunning for you. My two cents, if you have a 2yrs Associate Degree, go back to school and get the BA. If you can't get the police thing out of your system, try a smaller police department or County PD outside of Cook. The best Fed law enforcement jobs are ATF, Customs, US Marshall's Office. If you can speak a couple of languages look at the CIA, their always looking for people who now other cultures and languages, thereby, being able to blend in and gather info. Lastly, whatever you decide, go and get your concealed to carry and learn the weapon you're going to carry and when to use it. This is exactly what I told my two nephews and to avoid the FBI at all cost..........

8/08/2017 10:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Eddies classic comment "CPD should reflect the demographics of this city it we're gonna get there we have to ensure that we have a viable pool of people to constantly pull from" page 10 today's suntimes! Ok Eddie help the coppers already on CPD pull us from the "pool " of filth we are mired in! The pool of bosses your exempt rank that have no clue how to leave! We're "gonna" kollege what a concept!

8/08/2017 10:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...





"Anyone that would consider getting on this job now is just plain nuts and should fail the pyscological just for applying. Your putting your future on the line."

That's Catch 22.
If you want the job your crazy.
Therefore you cannot get the job.
If you don't want the job, your normal.
You can have the job.


8/08/2017 10:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why do they have trouble getting people to join this department?
Add the following thought to the list of reasons on this post by our members.
When a member is 'mentioned or accused' in any malfeasance, however slight or unconfirmed, the liberals (most politicians, BLM, public, ACLU, media et al) all want them stripped or fired IMMEDIATELY and decry the option of being placed on desk or similar duty pending the outcome.
How come Northwestern, aka Commie U, didn't IMMEDIATELY fire their esteemed professor who is obviously involved in brutally stabbing and cutting out his groin area of a live-in friend/partner. Instead, today on WGN, (We Generate Negativity) 8 August, they ran with a 'Commie U' official who praised the professor indicating, with superlatives, what a great person he is and indicated further that they already have similar 'letters of support' from their staff on his behalf. That fits right in with using their students as whores, with the main pimp a NW professor who again was not IMMEDIATELY fired in their bogus wrongful conviction debacle brought to light by our own Marty Preib. Is the seriousness of 'their' offenses not deserving of the immediacy of their termination as with our members? I guess false imprisonment, contempt, corruption, prostitution, murder, castration, illegal flight to avoid prosecution, etc are not grounds for IMMEDIATE termination, but signing off on a report for example merely because it requires a supervisors signature indicating completion and not on-scene presence or personal knowledge requires that they be fired?
Law enforcement is (still) a noble profession despite the aforementioned who work daily at making everything, the 'Police Fault.' Those that have and still work the job, hold your head high for the work that you do, but keep looking over your shoulder for those that are out there to stab you in the back.
God Bless and watch over all our fellow first responders.
AMEN.

8/08/2017 10:40:00 AM  
Anonymous In the know...or NOT said...

Fran S. asked S(t)upEd today about recruit numbers & mumbles didn't have an answer...but these are the REAL numbers on the eligibility list just started (I work at HQ in HR):

1. Actual "good" candidates (these candidates have the age & education requirement at the bare minimum) who passed, to be called up for further testing after the initial exam in April 2017: 6,700 candidates

2. Of those 6,700, a little more than 1/2 (3,500) will be excluded for Marijuana usage, other Narcotics usage, poor or reckless driving history, debt or credit issues, arrest history & general moral character or background issues etc.

3. Of the balance left, roughly 3,200 candidates, almost a little more than 1/2 of these candidates will fail the investigative background, drug test and/or POWER test during the various stages of the process & will be excluded at some point or not show up for further testing;

4. Of the remaining 1600 candidates, roughly 1/3 will fail the polygraph for various reasons but mostly for "admissions" in their background that were not revealed during the process;

5. Of the remaining 1100, 300 will fail the psych test (although CPD has enacted an appeal process for the psych test on this new exam after the Honorable Ann Burke's driver failed his psych test a few months back...hmmm, did the folks at HQ report all the unethical communications, phone calls & emails to the IG on behalf of this assh*le. We couldn't change the psych rules for our men & women in the armed forces who have a "higher than normal" failure rate but we'll change it for Burke's driver - only the best & brightest right Barb-bring-my-pillow-to-work-West),

6. By the time all 6700 candidates are processed for the most recent (April 2017) test the Department will be LUCKY if they have 800 "qualified" candidates for the position of police officer. Of those, only 650 (est.) will accept the position and that is not keeping up with attrition. Nor is that 650 the best & brightest.

Also, HR held a round table last month to go over "disqualified" candidates to see if they can somehow be made into "good" candidates - this shock wave will be felt in a few years my friends.

The Department will be out of candidates TO SEND TO THE ACADEMY from the most current list by December 2017, hence the need for a new test (given in a frenzy).

The department has had a goal of 100 candidates per month since the mayor's announcement of increasing officers within the department. This goal has only been met once in eight months and HR will be lucky if they meet that quota anytime soon again.

Also, the current April numbers are reflective of individuals/candidates who have taken prior (multiple) tests. So, not truly new candidates but recycling old candidates who were most likely disqualified but have not been informed as of yet BECAUSE Investigations IS SITTING ON THOUSANDS OF DISQUALIFICATION FILES because they don't have the manpower to properly work up the file just in case the applicant appeals to the HEARING REVIEW BOARD (HRB).

Ask the question, How many candidates from 2013 & 2016 are still pending a background evaluation SINCE WE ARE INTO THE 2017 test? How many are eligle/ineligible but have not been notified? Of those, how many are on the current list being evaluated (April 2017) who will also be ineligible?

Side Note: African American & Caucasian candidates taking the test have dropped below previous tests but Hispanic candidates have increased drastically.

Food for thought...for any reporter who's reading and isn't lunching on the bullshit the Department or city Hall is feeding them.

8/08/2017 10:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Lol. They don't fire anyone.
Girl in last Academy class got fired twice and got reinstated.


She will be your commander in 5 to 10 years

8/08/2017 11:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone that would consider getting on this job now is just plain nuts and should fail the pyscological just for applying. Your putting your future on the line.

8/08/2017 12:22:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Residency requirement drastically kills the eligibility pool !

Guess there are 8,700 nuts who are nuts and don't mind living in the city. That's the number that were eligible from the last list and there will be probably the same from the new December test

8/08/2017 11:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
When can I retire? I heard it no longer 20 and out with healthcare... am I supposed to retire at 68 or maybe 72 by the time I am eligible for Medicaid or whatever.... by the way I am being an asshole cause this police gig is done son

Yea retire at 68 or 72 when the mandatory retirement age is 63. Do you even know what you are saying? Since 1986 the police have been paying into medicare

8/08/2017 11:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thousands of applicants and only about 200 eligible that's why they are redoing the test, no one wants to be the police anymore no one likes you or has your back anymore why apply become a nurse or fireman work for the water department.

8/08/2017 11:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
And let's not forget that wonderful, highly desirable side-benefit of being a moving target. Literally.
Because the politicians and the media have riled the public into a frenzied, laser focus on us. Young applicants are smart enough NOT to choose being assassinated as part of their career options.

Side benefit of being a moving target and being assasinated? It is terrible when any officer is killed but do your homework in 1971 11 police officers were killed. A few years before 9. And other years 10 were killed.

8/08/2017 11:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
When can I retire? I heard it no longer 20 and out with healthcare... am I supposed to retire at 68 or maybe 72 by the time I am eligible for Medicaid or whatever.... by the way I am being an asshole cause this police gig is done son

8/08/2017 12:47:00 AM

It was never 20 and out with healthcare.

8/08/2017 11:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We are in a phenomenal economy right now. During any good economy the recruitment numbers dramatically drop.

8/08/2017 12:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FatHeadEd once again is stating that he needs more black and brown officers.
Sounds racist to me.

8/08/2017 12:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

God bless Donald Trump

8/08/2017 12:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It would be interesting to see what percentage of the Cities population are Police, Fire, Teachers, Public Works, Aldercreatures families and patronage workers. Then figure out how many are on Public Assistance. Is there anyone left?

8/08/2017 12:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Appeals court: Pension fund has right to $11M, potential tax hike from Harvey for underpaying pensions
by Jonathan Bilyk | Aug. 7, 2017, 5:19pm

While leaving it to the elected leaders of the city of Harvey to figure how much tax to levy to get the money they need from property tax payers, a state appeals court panel has ruled the south suburban city’s pension fund is on the brink of default, and, thus, the pension board for the city’s firefighters has a valid claim under state law to force the city to cough up nearly $11 million in unpaid and underpaid pension fund contributions.

On Aug. 4, a three justice panel of the Illinois First District Appellate Court in Chicago determined the city’s mayor and council for years had improperly “abused” their “discretionary powers” under state law to fund the city’s firefighter pension fund, leaving the fund on the brink of default and bankruptcy.

This, the appeals justices said, meant a Cook County judge had been correct in determining past Illinois legal precedents, which had generally found courts can’t order cities or other governments to pay certain amounts to fund public worker pensions, don’t apply in Harvey’s case, and the judge was within her rights to order the city to pay the amount it had allegedly underfunded – regardless of the city’s claims it had not been able to do so.

http://cookcountyrecord.com/stories/511174834-appeals-court-pension-fund-has-right-to-11m-potential-tax-hike-from-harvey-for-underpaying-pensions

8/08/2017 12:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No one wants to work for Communist City of Chicago...

8/08/2017 12:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with a prior post. I have 23 yrs and told my son who wants to be a police officer to go to the burbs. All the mistreatment handed down by the assholes in city hall it's not worth it. It's only get worse I don't see improvement in the near future for the department.

8/08/2017 01:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC, any rumors on any upcoming Sgt classes? Sitting 76 out. People were saying sept but I find that hard to believe, they will take a big class then. Any insight would be appreciated.

Appears they might do it right this time...Capts coming first, who will once again run each watch, followed by Lts, and THEN Sgts. Expect spring class officer.

8/08/2017 01:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Lionel Hutz said...

If law enforcement is your calling join the Feds. The Chicago Police is a dead-end career. No matter how qualified, intelligent or capable you are there's a very good chance that you'll be pushing a Beat or Tac car for the next 30 years. The makeup of the CPD will look like the Post Office or the Chicago Teacher's Union in the next 10 years.

8/08/2017 02:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I want the job...but! When I tried out for ISP a few years ago, I passed the written and the power test. I came in a minute late on the run (I felt like such a pussy). Can't we have like a designated runner or something...lol. I would love to do the job. Hell, I would volunteer on the weekends if need be and work my regular 9-5. Get a bunch of us on the force and then you guys can relax a bit.

8/08/2017 02:15:00 PM  
Blogger 30 pending and what said...

.being a cop is like getting kicked in the nuts around the clock

Maybe i like getting kicked in the balls around the clock. Everyone and i mean everyone has a secret.

8/08/2017 02:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Come now SCC, according to the pro-residency trolls these are all things you "knew" when you "took" the job...

8/08/2017 02:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

underwood vs the city of chicago decision tomorrow 9 aug!

8/08/2017 02:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Back in the day upwards of 30,000 would be taking the test. Times have changed. So has the country.

8/08/2017 02:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My recommendation to anyone interested in Law Enforcement is to go federal. They have money, toys, retirement. State, county, municipal law enforcement is a no-win endeavor.

8/08/2017 03:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lift residency how stupid is the city and the FOP?!? Get better candidates that don't wanna live in this cesspool.

8/08/2017 03:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

San Antonio is hiring..5,000 sign bonus for new hires...7,500 for transfer officers with a modified academy..low cost of living, no snow..good public schools free medical for officers and a solvent pension..retired 19 tears ago, here for the last 12

8/08/2017 03:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you're reading this and you're thinking of taking the test, DON'T. There are myriad policing opportunities out there that don't expose you to the chronic problems facing CPD. This is a period in the Department that supervisors and up will not hesitate to make an example of you. Even if you are well intended, you are risking everything. The statements real coppers are making about liability and lack of Departmental backing are valid. This was a great job. It isn't now.

8/08/2017 03:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My son got an incomplete score on the bullshit psych test and they said he would have to reapply, well he got hired by a suburb and is quite happy. And to now have them k owe ring the standards because certain groups can't seem to pass is not the ideal situation.this job is being g run by a bunch of goofs.

8/08/2017 04:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is what you get from Socialist Demorats who are sucking this city dry. Look at New York, Baltimore, L.A. Detroit; others dragging this country down. Remember Rules for Radicals. That is the Demorat Bible.

8/08/2017 05:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When are they finally going to lift the residency requirement to attract more people?

8/08/2017 06:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12:47 AM. Please brother put down the bottle or hide your keyboard. The answers are easy to find. If you need anything there are resources available. God bless.

8/08/2017 06:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You forgot the other benefits:
Guaranteed 1st watch (midnights for you civilians) the first eight years on the job (unless you have the morals of an alley cat)
Guaranteed the farthest commute from your home possible
No holidays or weekends off for the first ten years
Expect your days off to be cancelled at the last minute for stupid shit
Expect your life span to be ten years shorter than your peers
Lose your civilian friends and some of your family
If you are married, a divorce
If you are dating, a domestic complaint
SO yeah, join the club.
Hopefully you live long enough to reach retirement

8/08/2017 07:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone who has a relative that is considering becoming a Chicago Police Officer DO NOT allow them to do it

People coming on the job are adults,, Let them make up their own minds. They don't need your advise, they can figure things out

8/08/2017 08:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Been on 25 years. Use to never tell someone not to take this job. Figured who am I to shatter a dream. That has changed. I now say be a firemen or try burbs if REALLY want to be police. I hate that it's come to this. This job will only get worse. And this mayor is a total asshole

There are very few if any police that stayed on or took this job if they had an opportunity to go on the CFD I know of three in the last few years that left the CPD to go to CFD and a few more who passed on CPD because they knew they were in the next class or two of the CFD
Fire doesn't hire as many tests are few and far between and its almost a closed shop Once again the CPD gets criticized for po's kids getting on. Worse and happens all the time but never a word about the CFD

8/08/2017 08:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
To all the coppers who have not discouraged their kids from being the police your wacked in the head.
8/08/2017 08:54:00 AM

News flash Sometimes when kids become adults they make up their own minds and do what they want to do

8/08/2017 08:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Thousands will apply because those who do will never find a job paying 72,000 in 18 months and after a while be making over 100 grand with overtime. Private sector is no better even worse. Low pay, no benefits and no pensions. Why do you think we are here and stay! If the grass was greener out there we would be there. Bitch all you want but don't see anyone quiting before retiring. In fact those who end up getting fired fight to get back on.
8/08/2017 08:08:00 AM

And who knows if you are connected or don't want to be the police if a few years you can end up in the commanders front office, caps, schools or the commanders or front office like about 500 po's do

8/08/2017 08:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

God damn, i wish i could make that in the private sector.

Easy to waste all that taxpayer money though... right

8/08/2017 08:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Donald Trump's cologne smells like wd-40 and gun powder

8/08/2017 08:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

maybe small class of Sgt's by winter, do not count on it though!

8/08/2017 09:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow. After reading the post and all of your comments, I cannot think of any reason to be a Chicago Police officer. However I think you are not alone. Any big city police department is probably something you would not want to be part of either. It is a shame that a once respected position has become such a profession with little societal respect. You all have succeeded in bumming me out.

8/08/2017 09:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OK, let's see if they REALLY want people to get this job.

Did they get rid of the age discrimination rule (nobody over 35 need apply)

Nope!

So no older people with experience need apply. Oh well.

8/08/2017 09:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

@07:08:00 PM
Dreadful working conditions very well
summarized as noted in years of SCC.
If they don't know by now, they never will.
----------
Rock the Casbah (North Korea)
Goodbye yellow brick road.....
When the whip comes down
(Musical interludes, please)
God Bless America

8/08/2017 10:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The city better get rid of the foolish and antiquated residency requirement if they want to attract a bigger and better applicant pool.

8/08/2017 10:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

College kids that get busted for "underage drinking" counts against you in the back round check.

8/08/2017 10:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anyone that would consider getting on this job now is just plain nuts and should fail the pyscological just for applying. Your putting your future on the line.

8/08/2017 12:22:00 AM

Thank you, Captain John Yossarian.

8/08/2017 10:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In case anyone is interested SWAT will be holding tryouts. We are short operators. Make sure you are prepared physically and practice the swat course of fire. I didn't have any clout and I made it. Great opportunity. Great team.

8/08/2017 11:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My son got an incomplete score on the bullshit psych test and they said he would have to reapply, well he got hired by a suburb and is quite happy. And to now have them k owe ring the standards because certain groups can't seem to pass is not the ideal situation. this job is being g run by a bunch of goofs.

8/08/2017 04:57:00 PM

Thank the heavens he was hired by a suburb and he is satisfied. And, take it to the bank, they jerked him around. Not because they like jerking people around, but because they cannot level with people. Yes, he would be able to take another test and, actually, he could take all the tests until he aged out, but there is no chance he would ever be hired.

8/08/2017 11:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

708pm, I stopped taking promotional exams for that very reason.

8/08/2017 11:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Cmdr. Joe Curtin (dec.) said...

Anonymous said...
SCC, any rumors on any upcoming Sgt classes? Sitting 76 out. People were saying sept but I find that hard to believe, they will take a big class then. Any insight would be appreciated.

Appears they might do it right this time...Capts coming first, who will once again run each watch, followed by Lts, and THEN Sgts. Expect spring class officer.

8/08/2017 01:22:00 PM

Past practice has worked to their advantage so the city will stay with it. They'll promote from the lowest rank first. They'll promote Sgt's then Lt's and likely at the same time so they're all at the academy at the same time. They'll all graduate along with recruits. Every rank will be short of budgeted manpower even after all the promotions. It's a budgetary shell game. Capt's are a bit of an anomaly though where they post a list, train a certain number in the academy, then promote only a handful of those at a time. The Capt "interviews" are being held now and are scheduled to go into Sept. This goes along with the long held rumor that there will be Capt's as W/C's. No more WOL's or DSS.

8/09/2017 01:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
"Lol. They don't fire anyone.
Girl in last Academy class got fired twice and got reinstated."

I work at the academy. Never heard of this one. How about some factual insight on this one?

8/08/2017 09:12:00 AM

__

I am assigned to the academy, also. That story is not true. We do a phenomenal job by not leaving anyone behind.

8/09/2017 06:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Best time to come one this job is now. You'll be sent to a nicer district (because new cops in the ghetto is bad according to the media), no need to do anything physically anymore, just cut paper and advise warrant. The department caters to the new kids crying that they need 2nd watch with a specific day off group, unlike back in they day when you weren't even allowed to look at a boss.



Sign up, take the test, demand that you get hired regardless of what those psych results say. Just keep paying into the pension fund kiddo.

8/09/2017 06:39:00 AM  
Blogger Big Daddy said...

Will you SWAT guys please stop calling yourself "operators". You are Police Officers just like everyone else, your job description is just a little different. I don't think you realize how stupid you make yourselves look when you use the term "operator" to describe yourself.

8/09/2017 07:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Isn't retire age to max out at 59?

8/09/2017 07:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Policing became impossible in my mind. Why to even put a uniform on anymore I asked? Couldn't subject myself to the ridiculousness anymore and quit.

8/09/2017 07:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
If you have any skills, mechanical, carpentry, and if your family has a business in any of the trades; that's where you should be focusing. The risks now out weigh the pay and making money like $72,000 with little guarantee's, not worth it. You not only have to worry about getting psychically injured, but you have to be looking over shoulder for the politicians who are gunning for you. My two cents, if you have a 2yrs Associate Degree, go back to school and get the BA. If you can't get the police thing out of your system, try a smaller police department or County PD outside of Cook. The best Fed law enforcement jobs are ATF, Customs, US Marshall's Office. If you can speak a couple of languages look at the CIA, their always looking for people who now other cultures and languages, thereby, being able to blend in and gather info. Lastly, whatever you decide, go and get your concealed to carry and learn the weapon you're going to carry and when to use it. This is exactly what I told my two nephews and to avoid the FBI at all cost..........

8/08/2017 10:14:00 AM

That's almost exactly what I told my two kids, adding we have relatives connected to law firms and one of the kids past the law entrance examine. The other knows building construction and he and a few of this friends have built three garages this year and want to expand. So, I sat down with bought and told them, you're not me, a dumb cop, go and do something else. This job is nothing like your grandfather, your uncles or me had experienced. They killed the culture and it's rigged to fuck you real good. Both have their Carry Permits, belong to the NRA, hunt, and enjoy the shooting sports. If it was another day, both would have been an asset to law enforcement, with or without my blessing.

8/09/2017 08:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Recently moved to the Pensacola Florida area. Escambia County, Santa Rosa County and Pensacola PD are all hiring. Cost of living is much less (yes so is the pay), take home car upon completion of probationary period, lots of off duty side jobs available. Worth checking out especially if you have less than 5 years on the job.

8/09/2017 09:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Most captains were triple merit , do not know District Basic Patrol Operations
We had a Captain training a Hispanic inspector captain
Fool did not know district boundaries how to log in PDT Radio zones
Plenty of war stories from days in a Unit

8/09/2017 10:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

8/08/2017 06:48:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
You forgot the other benefits:
Guaranteed 1st watch (midnights for you civilians) the first eight years on the job (unless you have the morals of an alley cat)
Guaranteed the farthest commute from your home possible
No holidays or weekends off for the first ten years
Expect your days off to be cancelled at the last minute for stupid shit
Expect your life span to be ten years shorter than your peers
Lose your civilian friends and some of your family
If you are married, a divorce
If you are dating, a domestic complaint
SO yeah, join the club.
Hopefully you live long enough to reach retirement
8/08/2017 07:08:00 PM


What is wrong with you? Talking all this shit. 12,000 retired police collecting their pensions now reached their retirement. Most of my friends remained married and kept their friends. Read the age of retirees from the pension board. Guys in their , bunch in their 80's and you would be surprised at the number in their 70's. Doesn't appear they lost 10 years of life. In fact pension fund says retirees living longer and it a strain on the pension fund
I agree that these are some pitfalls of the job, but they can be dealt with.

8/09/2017 11:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
In case anyone is interested SWAT will be holding tryouts. We are short operators. Make sure you are prepared physically and practice the swat course of fire. I didn't have any clout and I made it. Great opportunity. Great team.

8/08/2017 11:07:00 PM


That's what everybody says. Never heard the deputy's kid say "my dad made me" or the politicians kid say "the Dems made me". They all say it's legit and they studied hard. That's why I got out of patrol so quickly and yes my dad worked with the deputy when they were patrolmen together but he didn't get involved

8/09/2017 11:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would suggest to People wanting to become the Police: go with the Feds,State Police , or a small Municipality. Large Cities have a certain group of citizens that the Political class want to curry favor with. If push comes to shove, you, the P.O., will find yourself dispensable , and I mean your life will be ruined. Just look at the stories here in Chicago.The most recent indictment of the Sgt., Detective and the P.O. who had the paper on the McDonald debacle! He wrote the paper with the facts known to him at the time!Just like every other report taken and for Political reasons found himself in the trick bag!

Better yet , go with Customs and Immigration , they have the Gun, Badge, handcuffs( all the trappings of the Police) but I never observed them do any Police work in the 12 yrs I worked at the Airport.

8/09/2017 11:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

8-8 854am
My old man never discouraged me from being the police until I told him I was applying. He really tried but gave up knowing I was an adult. Fast forward, my son was 4 when he told my wife he was gonna be the police. I was not doing so well the next few days.

8/09/2017 11:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

in fairness, $72k a year for what amounts to just barely over an entry level job is nothing to sneeze at.

its not perfect but there are not a lot of jobs where you can get hired and a few years later be making that kind of money. and even with some minor erosion of benefits they still far exceed what is readily available in the private sector.

8/09/2017 12:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Better yet , go with Customs and Immigration , they have the Gun, Badge, handcuffs( all the trappings of the Police) but I never observed them do any Police work in the 12 yrs I worked at the airport.

But you really were doing REAL police work at the airport? Take your ass to your secret spot and go back to sleep.

8/09/2017 10:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's why I got out of patrol so quickly and yes my dad worked with the deputy when they were patrolmen together but he didn't get involved.

Yeah you keep telling yourself that Bonestroke. Your living proof why this Dept is a veritable joke. By the way, the Deputy called go get your shinebox and don't forget to bring him a large coffee.

8/10/2017 12:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Policing became impossible in my mind. Why to even put a uniform on anymore I asked? Couldn't subject myself to the ridiculousness anymore and quit.

8/09/2017 07:40:00 AM


---

my question is what do you talk about in the squad car for 8 hrs/ when you know it's all being recorded? the weather? the Cubs?

signed,
a long time det.

8/10/2017 06:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I paid the alderman the extra two hundred dollars to get on the job. Got on the CFD in 1982. I am now retired and content.

8/10/2017 01:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The city should drop the 60 college credits.

8/10/2017 03:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

nonymous said...
Better yet , go with Customs and Immigration , they have the Gun, Badge, handcuffs( all the trappings of the Police) but I never observed them do any Police work in the 12 yrs I worked at the airport.

But you really were doing REAL police work at the airport? Take your ass to your secret spot and go back to sleep.

8/09/2017 10:29:00 PM


Must be a guy from the Bomb Squad,

8/10/2017 09:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm still waiting to take the POWER test and they are already having another written test??

8/11/2017 08:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Residency requirement drastically kills the eligibility pool !

8/08/2017 12:28:00 AM

College requirement kills the eligibility pool!

8/12/2017 02:16:00 PM  

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