Wednesday, May 17, 2017

The Anti-Quota Boss

Amusing that this would come out of the NYPD, after the entire CompStat system was built on quota based policing:
  • NYPD Commissioner James O’Neill vowed to discipline any supervisor who puts quantity before quality when it comes to summonses, it was revealed Friday.

    “This department does not and will not use quotas for enforcement activity,” O’Neill said in a message distributed to every command citywide on April 28. “Supervisory personnel who use quotas or encourage or reward numbers for the sake of numbers may be subject to department discipline.”

    O’Neill said he will also bring the hammer down on supervisors who “punish members who fail to meet a quota, or who threaten to retaliate against any member who reports the use of quotas.”
Here, you have bosses pushing quotas in writing in the hopes of getting promoted. When caught, they have Media Affairs deny, deny, deny, then hold a meeting reiterating quotas where they take away pens, paper and cell phones lest word get out again. Then they have a Captain offer a bounty to other cops to snitch out whomever revealed the original quota. Meanwhile, upstairs in the same building, reports of four cops dumped from Saturation for failing to bring in enough activity to keep their spots.

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82 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

every police department is different

5/17/2017 12:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NYPD is so much better organization than the shit show we work for.

5/17/2017 12:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hmmmm! That northwest side gentrified district with that beautiful park that was once gang infested has the supervisors playing the same game who reward the same often more then others and some none. A lot of favoritism going on but hell, they take real good care of each other(sgt). God forbid you have no activity then your talked about by supervisors TO OTHER P.O.'s about your activity. "Remember come in with something,you get paid real good money".

5/17/2017 01:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Interesting, is this just like the 020th dist commander who told the guy who needed days, bring in 5 blue cards a day and you can go to day? Now for all you slow, non reading comprehension idiots. The point here is, he is not looking for quality of stops, he is looking for only numbers. I have no problem helping a cop who need to take care of his family, but I do have a problem with a boss who is looking out for himself, to tell a guy go get five a day. Dont do good stops, suspended license, stolen cars, or guns and drugs. Go get me blue cards just for numbers.

Oh and by the way, I hear the 2nd watch bosses are total strokes. KR, RS, and the other guy are total idiots micromanaging like watch to death. Glad I am not on days.

5/17/2017 01:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


SCC don't forget that a 014 Commander asking Po's to bring in there 6 mo activity before he reviews there SPARS... Everyone in the Command staff of the CPD is drinking the kool-aid...A bunch of pussies. That stroke Commander in 014, the You must have been a pog in the Marines Crop. Go back to being a house mouse. What a joke

5/17/2017 02:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So...

Can it be possible that Gumpstat is now
crashed hard against a wall and burning
as a vehicle for promotion used by clouted
hacks to ride over Policemen with while
en route to their undeserved promotions?

"How are we gonna evaluate YOU peed-on
peon blue shirts if we can't bully and threaten
you into generating all that yummy delicious
Illegal, quota based activity?

5/17/2017 02:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Totally correct and Escamerit is still the Commander with his right hand idiot Harris and no rumored change in sight.
This moron has up to 6 cars beat restricted and then is calling for out door roll calls, which he then sends the dispatcher over the PDT a list of cars he wants at the roll call because if he goes over the air no one shows up which leaves 1 or 2 cars available for the entire district!!
Never mind the back log that never seems to clear up just stay in your dam boxes and get me activity!!
Hearing these white shirts talk shit about him one minute and then the next their kissing his ring is just pathetic
025 3rd watch

5/17/2017 02:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Summonses or arrests?

5/17/2017 03:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have never seen such bizarre, incompetent, and shakey contradictive management, along with kool-aid drinking two year wonders in my whole career. This job is done. These new guys feel like they need to get off of beat cars in two years. If they can't get on gang or tac, then the saturation teams are highly saught as if they were elite units.

The few veteran officers that know what they are doing on the watches, get second guessed and treated like shit by a few of the bad Sgts. The veteran officers, that are goofs, get left alone because they are just looked at as lost causes. You also got some shakey Sgts that seemed to be under the impression that when they made rank, they were guaranteed a certain shift. Sorry, but you might have to work midnights Sgt.

If someone gets shot, it turns into the sky is falling. Act professional for fucks sake. Don't get on the radio all melodramatic and if there is a slow down given, that doesn't mean to keep driving in full retard mode. The culprit usually doesn't stand over the person shot, with the gun still smoking in his hand, waiting for the calvary to show up.

A lot of this can be blamed on beat integrity missions and disorganized, ever changing expectations from the department brass that is very unrealistic.

Do you have your beat tag? Camera logged on? Relief for lunch or when you need to piss? Mission sheets? Do you have mics? Are the mics working? Okay good. Now go out there and get some activity! Just better make sure no one gets shot though. The 025th district was such a pleasent place, with no violence, up until a few months ago (sarcasm).

Were the four saturation grunts that got dumped on the team of that one goof Sgt that slapped the power bar out of his tardy P.O.'s hand? Jackass management better get its act together before some of them get a much needed attitude adjustment.

As far as the Commander goes... Well, anyone that starts bringing in heaps of activity after June 1st better be very weary. The ACLU will be going through stats with a microscope thanks to the 10 stop email leak fallout. Despite what the Commander and some of the other white shirt fools believe, this job ain't legit. It never was.

5/17/2017 04:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Wanted: Dead or Alive! said...

What proof do these officers need to provide in order to collect their Bubblehead Bucks from the Captain? I can just as well rat out some officer that I got in a beef with regardless if he did it or not. Please tell me that this is just a bad rumor. I hate to think that this Captain is as stupid as I've heard he is.

Fuck it. I'll tell the Sgt and his bounty hunters whom the leaker was. It was desiminated by a lockup staff member. Not sure which watch or gender though. It was done so that a neighboring district XO could possibly take over as Commander. A high ranking neighborhood relations officer facilitated the deed. Your welcome. Now give me my Bubblehead Bucks you strokes!!!

5/17/2017 04:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

However in 009 WHEEEEZZZZEEEE still wants numbers,to bad it's "time due" on the books,she was overheard complaining that when she leaves a slip for a "couple hours " on the end,she dosn't expect it to be turned in,,,,

5/17/2017 06:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Restructuring true. Apperently the City wants to make an example out of SWAT to deter an more "units" from getting the idea to file a lawsuit.
SWAT will win the lawsuit no doubt which the City will have to pay out. BUT---then the Department is planning to royally screw with the SWAT Team:

•Chicago 3rd largest City will have a "part time" SWAT team.

•expanding Detail unit will cover all sporting and events. No more OT for SWAT.

•Disband and members bounced to all different Districts & watches throughout the City (But at least you will have several SWAT trained officers working at the same time on ALL watches. More than one or two SORT cars)

•Back in blue uniforms

•Order is being worked on stating SWAT Equiptment will be kept inside a "special Locker" authorized by Captain of whatever District they land at. They will keep all equiptment there, not bring it home. If something happens officer will pick up equiptment and respond. OT slip will be signed.

Some clouted bosses at SWAT will keep there spots and be the administrator of the "part time unit" and some will get bounced back to districts. The City sold this as "more highly trained" men working the beat ALL over the city, aka MANPOWER. I hope you guys get a nice check from this. It's a shame.


5/17/2017 06:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Psssttt... Dumpy Tony....Captain Obama...yeah you two clowns... Somebody is talking about you...🍕

5/17/2017 06:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Meanwhile, upstairs in the same building, reports of four cops dumped from Saturation for failing to bring in enough activity to keep their spots".

I know, BUT. The four did not do very much. You are on a SAT TEAM; you have to do something. Their Sgt. is a good guy, tried talking to them. It did not work.

5/17/2017 07:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/police-and-fire-finally-switching-to-electronic-time-keeping/amp/

Is this finally going to happen? It's been talked about for over 10 years now.

5/17/2017 07:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Support Our Vets said...

Dart Targeting Military Employees Again.. 100% true about others who are still employed by Sheriff under same circumstances..

That POS Tom Dart and his lapdog merit board just fired a military officer who shot himself in the stomach but survived. Vince Winters and company fired him. I work for the Sheriff's office and know three officers who have shot themselves but kept their jobs. But they nail a military veteran who is probably suffering from PTSD. No mental health care for them, just the inmates.

Link.. Top Decision..
http://www.cookcountysheriff.org/meritboard_decisions.html

5/17/2017 07:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I remember being told at MANY roll calls....."Quality comes before quantity ONLY in the dictionary...."

5/17/2017 07:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When orders are issued demanding a quota, and quotas are illegal, doesn't that make the whole CPD a target for a RICO investigation? You know, becoming a corrupt organization and all like the city government.
Got to be tough being a real law enforcement officer in a situation like that. Those orders didn't come from anyone wearing a blue shirt.

J.J.

5/17/2017 07:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tom Dart quietly settled this suit.. Another military employee he targeted. Him and Rosie Nolan should of been indicted for this.

John Maher, was Assistant General Council to Sheriff Tom Dart. Maher was also a Lieutenant Colonel in the military. When he was called on by his country to serve Sheriff Dart took exception and questioned Maher's loyalty. Maher was then fired by Dart after completing his deployment.. Dart then justified his firing by making false allegations against Maher including but not limited too, Rosemary Nolan entering Maher in LEADS charging him with theft for a Sheriff's employee ID the same Day Robert Egan sent him notification to turn over his Credentials. Undersheriff Zelda Whittler told Maher that Sheriff Dart lost trust in him for serving his Country. Sheriff Dart had investigators go through his personal belongings looking for dirt on him.

5/17/2017 07:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

. I hope you guys get a nice check from this....Why should they get a check?....they applied to a unit - which is being restructured (borderline disbanded)....and make no mistake- those who decide to give up being swat will be replaced.

5/17/2017 07:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't worry about FOP having your back, they are too busy giving away cars to pay presidents who falsify there worth.

Best part about the whole quota thing hitting the media is you have Prieb taking credit for it at the meeting yesterday. The whole thing is in the media because of the blog but he claims he got it out there!

5/17/2017 08:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
NYPD is so much better organization than the shit show we work for.

5/17/2017 12:15:00 AM
Hate to admit it, but it's true. I used to think that all of the old "east of the Mississippi" police departments were essentially the same. They are not. Our department is just ass-backward in so many ways. Don't see any improvement in site, either.

5/17/2017 08:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All rubbish talk to fool the public.

5/17/2017 08:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
every police department is different
5/17/2017 12:08:00 AM

NO

5/17/2017 08:39:00 AM  
Blogger The Keesing Bandit said...

Since the merit bosses don't have the know-how nor the real street experience to know what really holds down crime, they think these numbers are the answer.

5/17/2017 08:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How do we send photos to SSC?

5/17/2017 08:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not that's how policing should be! But not in Chicago. Every day the bosses scream about numbers. At checkoff they make you fill out a form marking down all your numbers. Every mission they ask you what your numbers are. To work VRI you need numbers. At VRI they have you write down numbers. Numbers are all about bosses getting promoted.

5/17/2017 08:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That is simply real leadership compared to the shitshow bosses we have here! look at it like this Eddie came in and we hoped for change he did nothing with the waste of space bosses shuffled the deck and the same bosses who are incompetent are still there!

5/17/2017 08:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
However in 009 WHEEEEZZZZEEEE still wants numbers,to bad it's "time due" on the books,she was overheard complaining that when she leaves a slip for a "couple hours " on the end,she dosn't expect it to be turned in,,,,

5/17/2017 06:09:00 AM

Make a copy of the slip(s) and when the time is right, make an anonymous complaint to the IAD, City Hall, and the States Attorney's Officer. Drop the info to an investigative reporter and whomever else you thing will proceed with an investigation. Put on the anonymous information complaint, all of the agencies you've sent it too, so all know they can't just sweep this under the rug. This goofy bitch is nuts, with her double standards. I know we all are in some form guilty of similar things, but it's now time to bite the bullet and hammer away at these merit sons-of-bitch's. The more slips that can be copied the better.

5/17/2017 09:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Escamerit I can't bring in any activity the box you restrict me in everyday is way too small. Maybe if my relief shows up I can grab some activity on my way to take a piss!
Your not getting any numbers from me or my partners you POS
It's just a matter of time before some domestic goes really bad as a result of the constant backlog and most cars being restricted and when it does SCC will be notified and once again you will be embarrassed in a public forum.
025 3rd watch ☠️

5/17/2017 09:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(OT) Look here this terrorist who killed how many is free wonder is he coming to shitcago to visit his faln terrorist friend his buddy luis (the scumbag) guiterrez?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-oscar-lopez-rivera-freed-20170517-story.html

What did he do excerpt:

Lopez was considered a top leader of the Armed Forces of National Liberation, or FALN, an ultranationalist Puerto Rican group that claimed responsibility for more than 100 bombings at government buildings, department stores, banks and restaurants in New York, Chicago, Washington and Puerto Rico during the 1970s and early 1980s.

who will attend:

U.S. Rep. Luis Gutierrez and Ald. Roberto Maldonado are expected to attend the celebration. There will also be a street naming ceremony for Lopez Rivera — an honor that was sponsored in the Chicago City Council by Maldonado.

What the fuck (sorry for the language SCC) naming a street after this guy, but yet they say they are stopping the out of control street naming! Wonder will brendan reilly you know the guy who took over $5,000 in campaign contributions from President Trump then took Trumps sign down and they refused to give the money back that so called guy!Wonder will rahm be there you know he has to pander to the lowlifes all the people killed due to this guy and his terrorist crew right is wrong wrong is now right!

5/17/2017 09:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Interesting, is this just like the 020th dist commander who told the guy who needed days, bring in 5 blue cards a day and you can go to day? Now for all you slow, non reading comprehension idiots. The point here is, he is not looking for quality of stops, he is looking for only numbers. I have no problem helping a cop who need to take care of his family, but I do have a problem with a boss who is looking out for himself, to tell a guy go get five a day. Dont do good stops, suspended license, stolen cars, or guns and drugs. Go get me blue cards just for numbers.
Oh and by the way, I hear the 2nd watch bosses are total strokes. KR, RS, and the other guy are total idiots micromanaging like watch to death. Glad I am not on days.

5/17/2017 01:42:00 AM

Then that guy doesn't really need days. Management spots are for those who do the work the commanders ask for, simple. Otherwise wait until u have the seniority to bid to days.




5/17/2017 10:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT:

I seen a story on DNA Info about Rahm's newest namesake is a ballet loving foal.
Actually it's only this foal's rear end thsts named after Rahm cause we all know Rahm's a horses ass!

5/17/2017 10:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Saturation? If you want to be in a unit, expect to produce otherwise go back to the watch.

5/17/2017 10:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pre Obama - people sued the city over the cops.
Post Obama - the cops sue the city over the politicians.

How "progressive". Ironic, that.

5/17/2017 10:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nothing changes.
Quotas are the standard that judges the Merit Hack Exempt.
They massage those comp-stats better than a gin soaked barroom queen in Memphis.
The Quota (by any other name) is the one thing Rahm has yet to entirely concede to ACLU.
I wouldn't want to be on the next list that ACLU will compile with the next round of Disproportionate amount of street and traffic stops.

Are Triple merit hacks promising PO's a merit spot is still going on?
What kind of fool falls for that one?
Do your job (albeit proactively), get promoted (on your own) and still get yanked and screwed over.
Sounds fair to the merit spot taken by a slacker who never worked the streets.

There will always be the few that go out and bring in stuff, mostly for they're own work ethic, some are just doing what they're told in fear of losing that spot.
Let your conscience be your guide, not a Merit Slack Boss.
Stay together - Stay fetal.

5/17/2017 11:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Quota based or "activity based" policing has been around since the dawn of the white shirt.

Someone above me hit the nail on the head about younger officers desperately trying to get out of patrol to whatever unit they can make. I blame the academy and supervisors for this.

On the flip side of that coin, patrol is the red headed step child of the department (always has been). I can understand why some of these kids want out of patrol. In the units they are not tied to the radio, no domestics, lunch can be taken anywhere in the area of assignment etc. That makes a big difference when your running from call to call like a chicken with its head cut off trying to clear the board and still being hounded to bring in some type of activity.

The only way it will end is if they take a personnel who's been in patrol their entire career and promote them (based off their score of course). But, we know that will never happen.

So BOHICA.

5/17/2017 12:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You got that right about 014 Commander F.S. Total house mouse his whole career and now wants activity from his people. Ask Fabian to pull up his arrests over his career. Not much there. Was he a house mouse in the Marines too?

5/17/2017 12:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey commander escamillo and captain harris. I know who leaked the quota memo to the blog.

It was MR.T!

Now go get him you 2 fools!

P.S. Hey harris, did you shut down the blog yet? LMFAO

5/17/2017 12:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The epitomy of how stupid and clueless this department is. None of these quotas are going to bring down crime. You will always have young cops that work and ones that don't want to produce. You will always have veterans that work or ones that don't want to produce. Management is fucking up the natural flow of this job. Brilliant idea with the quotas. Not gonna change anything except make yourselves look more incompetent. Well played brass, well played.

If you got patrolmen dogging jobs and not doing their fair share which screws over fellow officers then ride'em. That should be all management is concerned about. Not event numbers, tickets, blue cards, or arrests. If you got gang and tac that aren't producing then dump them back to the watch. Worst things in life then being a blue shirt. If they wanna pimp themselves for the Commander and they get jammed up then no sympathy for them. Other then that, let this job run its course you idiots.

In closing, lets use 011 as an example. For years it has been filled with a preponderance of hard workers that made tons of arrests. Has that district changed for the better? Fuck no. Because in the end, no amount of proactive police work is gonna change a certain demographic of society. Either that certain demographic starts taking responsibility for its own problems, or you build a Star Bucks on every corner and hope it turns the area into an urban pioneer yuppiedom. Otherwise, gold stars can keep on living in whatever fantasy land they are creating for themselves.

5/17/2017 12:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC don't forget that a 014 Commander asking Po's to bring in there 6 mo activity before he reviews there SPARS... Everyone in the Command staff of the CPD is drinking the kool-aid...A bunch of pussies. That stroke Commander in 014, the You must have been a pog in the Marines Crop. Go back to being a house mouse. What a joke

5/17/2017 02:19:00 AM

Must be talking about PsD. Prima-salDonna. Ask him how Graham chewed him a new one when he tried to use an officer activity against him at a spar hearing. We're all hoping he goes away after Rican fest.

5/17/2017 12:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/police-and-fire-finally-switching-to-electronic-time-keeping/amp/

So much for early ducks....

5/17/2017 01:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Feeling no love lost on those Saturation people...they knew what was needed when they sought out those positions. The union protections don't even apply to those specialized units. Bring home the bacon, or pack your shit. Case closed!

5/17/2017 02:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The final death knell has wrung for proactive policing in Chicago with promulgation of the new "Use of Force Policy".

The legal deadfalls and snares that already lie before the path of any police officer in Chicago desirous of aggressively pursuing his or her duty would befuddle any constitutional scholar and paralyze those same with fear of a disastrous misstep before taking any police action. And now comes this new policy which both insults us and set forth clearly the path for our financial and professional ruin. This new policy presumes that, until now, we each anxiously and hopefully awaited any opportunity to use force, deadly or otherwise, against other citizens; that we, once identifying a situation wherein lies the technical authority to threaten another with our firearm, seize upon that moment without consideration of more reasonable means to resolution. This policy also ignores that never does a situation that truly requires deadly force ever provide those faced with the need to act, the time and resources to analyze and weigh this terrible decision such that will satisfy those who in the comfort of their office suites will have to later analyze and condemn. Now, written as a guideline more for those attorneys who would prey upon misfortune and feed upon the relative financial wealth of the City and its officers, is a policy that must be carefully weighed in its entirety and scrupulously applied to all known facts when faced with that terrible decision to act.

The Sanctity of Life policy explicitly proclaims that the life of he who has brought about the deadly circumstances to which the officer must react must be given equal weight as that of the threatened police officer in this equation.

This new policy imposes an explicit duty to call for an ambulance and to render medical. Have the authors of this order never been on the scene of a person shot, whether by the hands of another citizen or the police? Do they believe that we stand around, wondering what next to do while someone possibly bleeds out? Rendering aid is a natural, human response that is part of who we are, what we instinctively do in this situation. Perhaps you have experienced far too little of the streets. All that you have accomplished here has provided the likes of Jon Loevy or Bleak Horowitz with more means to attack honest, hardworking police officers.

What you have authored here is the death of proactive policing in Chicago.

5/17/2017 02:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Watched the news conference sickening Eddie and the cruiser pos activist:

http://www.fox32chicago.com/news/crime/255228686-story
Best advice from staying fetal to staying comatose Eddie you and the rahm cabal have effectively ruined policing in carnage city pathetic every last 1 of you!

5/17/2017 02:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

https://youtu.be/qdFLPn30dvQ
Sneak peak at the CPD use of force training.

5/17/2017 03:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Here, you have bosses pushing quotas in writing
in the hopes of getting promoted..."

The totality of what's wrong with this department.

Funny... DOJ/ACLU/#blm/local media/storefront clergy
/tha' communerty are only interested in ruining the
poor slob of a Policeman trying to keep himself from
being fucked with by these eye-wateringly wretched
bosses for not getting them enough of this quota
based "activity."

"Tha' Boss" won't know your sad, sore and sorry ass
when you're compelled to sit in a small room while
listing your assets and net worth...

...When EVERYTHING in your life ceases to make sense
while these Gold Star turn-coats to the very ideal of
Policing and Public Safety move on to find the next
batch of Coppers to fuck with over this dumb shit.

Things aren't as they were so anybody who tries
to address this nonsense as a simple minded
"workers vs. dogs" argument richly deserves
to have a blue-back legal packet with his name
on it crammed so far up his coal chute by DOJ/ACLU,
it can be read simply by looking down his throat.

Police Like You Have No friends.


5/17/2017 03:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the commander of 014 what stroke I remember him in 025 a real clout baby always taken care of.

5/17/2017 03:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The pushing quota based activity and the
bullying, harassment, threats and retaliation
by the supervisors doing the pushing, should be a
summary termination offense with harshly punitive
civil remedy for the affected officers.

What REALLY needs to happen is for the plug to
be pulled on Compstat. The "culture" of politically
sanctioned managerial bullying begins here.

And it won't stop or change until it becomes personally
and punitively expensive for the Superintendent, 1st Deputy,
Chiefs, Deputy Chiefs, Commanders, Captains, Lieutenants and
Sergeants.

Policemen?
They're made to pay anyway...
Coming and going.

No relief whatsoever from this nonsense.

Bad Policy rolls downhill and Policemen are scrambling
trying to keep from being ground to hamburger in the
debris.

5/17/2017 03:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Then that guy doesn't really need days. Management spots are for those who do the work the commanders ask for, simple. Otherwise wait until u have the seniority to bid to days.


Hey dumb ass, some people have situations they cant control. Death in a family or something. Using quotas to give them days is a joke. Again you dont get it. Its not the amount of stops I am taking about, its about, get me my quota and then we can talk. Idiots like you are what the problem are. For example, the 020 dist commander has no problem bringing in his yellow tonka truck 5 year wonder then put him in for merit sgt, but this guy did nothing in 005 his whole career. Once again you dont get it.

5/17/2017 04:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Never want to model our police dept like the NYPD except their union kicks ass, they stick together and they don't give a hell about no stupid mayor or boss for the most part. Too many backsoor deals and secret handshakes and favors owed on this dept all for promotions and to wear jeans. So dumb...would I like to work days? Of course...but I'll wait until I have the seniority to bid there. I knew what this job entailed when I took it. You'll have to eat shit every now and then but a lot of guys forget that.

5/17/2017 05:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This will probably never happen as long as Rahm & Supt. Ed are in, The best way to inspire people to superior performance is to convince them by everything you do and by your everyday attitude that you are whole heartedly supporting them... HSG

5/17/2017 05:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well damn sparky, you mean I have to call for an ambulance if I shoot an offender (which makes him instantly a victim) in this Bizzaro world. Next thing you know they will want me shoot with my non dominant hand, my gun cocked sideways, and remove the sights. If I use sight picture on the weapon its means I obviously meant to hit the piece of excrement. Each pull of the trigger will be an added attempt homicide, per BLM spokeperson, ASA Kim Fox. If you use your flashlight it will prove premeditation in that you were looking for a subject to shoot. Fart stains, even JVD and the officers at Laquan's forced Criminal retirement from hood to sainthood called for an ambulance to try and delay the inevitable self chosen demise.

Im sorry, but honestly, it seems I'm being told to forget everything I learned in the academy "To Serve and Protect" and now our motto is We are here to show you how to "Run and Hide"

5/17/2017 05:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/police-and-fire-finally-switching-to-electronic-time-keeping/amp/

So much for early ducks....

5/17/2017 01:21:00 PM

Confucius says: The early bird catches the worm and the late duck ends up on the menu...

5/17/2017 06:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"You got that right about 014 Commander F.S. Total house mouse his whole career and now wants activity from his people. Ask Fabian to pull up his arrests over his career. Not much there. Was he a house mouse in the Marines too?" @ 5/17/2017 12:01:00 PM

– Good point - it's not difficult for anyone to pull their Arrest stats and you should keep a copy before all are ACLU preemptive purge.
They kept those records dating to 1987 or so.

Transferred into a new District long ago I got into a pissing match with a WC who pulled a FS over activity and my performance rating.
Had my Arrest stats in hand and challenged him, his desk dollies or any one of his "days-only 20%'ers" to put their numbers (on a whole) over mine, and believe me I was no hard charger either. No arguement. Got my perf rating back up by 10 points.
I hate mice. Sneaky, filthy, baseboard hugging scavengers.
Btw, rumor is he was an E-1 stock clerk MOS 3051 before he became a Food Service Aide (MOS 3371) to the chief potato peeler...
which would explain fully where the management skill came from...50 - 100 lb. sacks of Idaho russet spuds cut & quartered 3x a day.
Gee-haw gitter'done.

5/17/2017 06:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blah blah blah...this is the same NYPD where a captain told his troops that if they came across any 'tourist robbery victims" to talk them into allowing for a simple theft report to be filed, instead of a robbery?
Please! While NYPD's new Commish means well, every PD is caught up in stats...and fines from citations. A drastic reduction in fines means that the cops there may not see raises for some time.
Business as usual.

5/17/2017 06:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Word is Sheriff Dart is having a meltdown at river site cause they can't find the body. I think it's straight jacket time.

5/17/2017 06:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How come there is still a quota to work VRI?

5/17/2017 07:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Things being the way they are - perhaps it would be a good thing to have some non-productivity notes in ones personnel file. Could come in handy in case of a witch hunt. I am not saying an endless list of nothing. Just enough to get out of the target zone of a quota lawsuit.

5/17/2017 07:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/police-and-fire-finally-switching-to-electronic-time-keeping/amp/

So much for early ducks....
5/17/2017 01:21:00 PM

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

And those full day thieves.

5/17/2017 08:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't we do everything New York does?
Didn't Supt EJ recently travel to New York to gather more of their ideas, since they are the foremost experts and Gods-gift to policework? And no other city knows how to do it?

So can we expect Supt EJ to follow suit and issue a "Pax 501" stating that CPD is taking a similar stance?


Doubt it! Now go get those ISRs!!!!

5/17/2017 08:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you wanna know something, if you are in a unit or on a sat team then you should be dumped if youre not going anything. There are hundreds of other hard working coppers out there that would gladly take your spot. For dogs to be in units in unacceptable. You dont just go to a unit for the 10 hour days, a couple perks here and there and do zero.. you deserve to get launched. If you want the perks you have to work for it... just like in life, but then again thats what we are teaching in society today, that if you want something you dont have to work for it, you just have to pout and whine enough to get what you want, and if somebody calls you out on it then you get that person in trouble because you are special.. everyone is special and equal. typical progressive, liberal and millennial thinking. what ever happened to hard work gets rewards????? Yeah, but go teach your kids the other way.. tell them to call the ACLU, get a lawyer and file a lawsuit or run to the media because somebody has expected work to be done AT WORK!!! Its called WORK for a reason.

5/17/2017 08:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's a question.... What's the need for the "Performance Recognition " chart which logs individual officers activity with red, yellow, & green to indicate if someone's activity isn't up to par ? Seems like an easy way for the department to track everybody's activity in order to use it against them or tell them their underperforming. A system like that could pollute ones mind making them more likely to generate unnecessary activity just for the sake of staying in the " green".

5/17/2017 08:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
However in 009 WHEEEEZZZZEEEE still wants numbers,to bad it's "time due" on the books,she was overheard complaining that when she leaves a slip for a "couple hours " on the end,she dosn't expect it to be turned in

1st, the woman isn't very social, but whatever--- she doesn't bother anyone with the exception of the other Lt. which is amusing.

2nd,the above post is not true and she never said that. I work the watch & that is total bullshit.

3rd, her only hang up is you take your lunch at a reasonable time so you don't screw the late cars on days. Also, if it's busy the sgts can't let everyone leave early.


5/17/2017 09:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Subsidize my insurance and I'll leave today.

5/17/2017 09:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So the new use of force policy prevents us from protecting the public. Don't believe me? Read it.

5/17/2017 09:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

you wanna know something, if you are in a unit or on a sat team then you should be dumped if youre not going anything. There are hundreds of other hard working coppers out there that would gladly take your spot. For dogs to be in units in unacceptable. You dont just go to a unit for the 10 hour days, a couple perks here and there and do zero.. you deserve to get launched. If you want the perks you have to work for it... just like in life, but then again thats what we are teaching in society today, that if you want something you dont have to work for it, you just have to pout and whine enough to get what you want, and if somebody calls you out on it then you get that person in trouble because you are special.. everyone is special and equal. typical progressive, liberal and millennial thinking. what ever happened to hard work gets rewards????? Yeah, but go teach your kids the other way.. tell them to call the ACLU, get a lawyer and file a lawsuit or run to the media because somebody has expected work to be done AT WORK!!! Its called WORK for a reason.

5/17/2017 08:36:00 PM


Another "rah-rah go get 'em"
hard-on shit-talking...

Don't ask for shit when you step
on your pee-pee, hero...

The one pouting and crying will
be you. "WAH! Nobody is buying
tickets for my benefit!"

Look in the mirror and see the sucker.
All your "production" means what now?

Goof.

You confuse "work" with generating
quota based "activity."

5/17/2017 09:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh boy, big mess happening right now out in 015 at a nursing home. All at once they have multiple heroin Over doses, ems plan 3 just called.

5/17/2017 10:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Here's a question.... What's the need for the "Performance Recognition " chart which logs individual officers activity with red, yellow, & green to indicate if someone's activity isn't up to par ? Seems like an easy way for the department to track everybody's activity in order to use it against them or tell them their underperforming. A system like that could pollute ones mind making them more likely to generate unnecessary activity just for the sake of staying in the " green".
5/17/2017 08:41:00 PM

Welcome to Suburban Traffic Nazi policing............

5/17/2017 10:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/police-and-fire-finally-switching-to-electronic-time-keeping/amp/

So much for early ducks....
5/17/2017 01:21:00 PM

For every measure...there is an equal and opposite counter-measure.......

5/17/2017 10:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cmdr Midget tard in 020 is all about himself and wants his numbers why don't you ask him how he had cops in 003 as captain violating people's rights and violating department general orders to get the all mighty contact cards .

5/18/2017 12:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
NYPD is so much better organization than the shit show we work for.
5/17/2017 12:15:00 AM

The same NYPD that brought you COMPSTAT and Adrian Schoolcraft? I'm amazed so many people actually believed what they said. I guess its easier to believe another dept's lies over your own.

5/18/2017 12:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

5/17/2017 01:42:00 AM

Jesus, dude, enough already. You didn't get the foot spot so you can sit in the car and study. Big f'ing deal. Make sure you post the same thing in three other threads while you are at it, we all need to read how you've been wronged more.

5/18/2017 01:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

5/17/2017 06:58:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
How come there is still a quota to work VRI?

5/17/2017 07:00:00 PM

Well, how come there is a quota to work VRI??

5/18/2017 03:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
How do we send photos to SSC?

5/17/2017 08:54:00 AM

Use this link: www.ssc.edu

5/18/2017 04:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Jesus, dude, enough already. You didn't get the foot spot so you can sit in the car and study. Big f'ing deal. Make sure you post the same thing in three other threads while you are at it, we all need to read how you've been wronged more.


Once again your reading comprehension is dead. Idiots like you are what the problem is with the department. Can you focus for one min and read what I posted. Nowhere did I talk about, or mention anything about anyones foot spot, asshat. What I did mentions was, now read closely, the point of the moron 020 dist commander always looking for activity to make himself look good. This post was about quotas. The main topic here is quotas, asshat.

My direct point here is, the midget commander who comes across like he cares, but only wants quotas so he can drive his career up up and away. You just dont get whats going on. Its not about the quantity of work, 100 blue cards, its about the quality, you stop the right car and get a gun, or a rapist, or a gangbanger going to do a drive bye.

Like I said, you just won't get it, its not about quantity, its about the quality of work, asshat. Who the Phuck said anything about a foot post you moron.

5/18/2017 09:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

5/17/2017 09:24:00 PM
It is not your job "to protect the public".
SCOTUS was quite clear about that. The Constitution is quite clear about that. Politicians who taught you that was your job, well ,the lied to you.

Your job, your role, as a LEO is to protect and defend the Constitution - meaning Rights belonging to the people and limitation placed on government by We The People.

When you finally understand THAT, well, a LOT of other things you find confusing will fall into place.

5/18/2017 10:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
How do we send photos to SSC?

5/17/2017 08:54:00 AM
sccmaillist@yahoo.com

Send them surely the "spirits of the air" will look at them!

5/18/2017 11:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jesus, dude, enough already. You didn't get the foot spot so you can sit in the car and study. Big f'ing deal. Make sure you post the same thing in three other threads while you are at it, we all need to read how you've been wronged more.


Once again your reading comprehension is dead. Idiots like you are what the problem is with the department. Can you focus for one min and read what I posted. Nowhere did I talk about, or mention anything about anyones foot spot, asshat. What I did mentions was, now read closely, the point of the moron 020 dist commander always looking for activity to make himself look good. This post was about quotas. The main topic here is quotas, asshat.

My direct point here is, the midget commander who comes across like he cares, but only wants quotas so he can drive his career up up and away. You just dont get whats going on. Its not about the quantity of work, 100 blue cards, its about the quality, you stop the right car and get a gun, or a rapist, or a gangbanger going to do a drive bye.

Like I said, you just won't get it, its not about quantity, its about the quality of work, asshat. Who the Phuck said anything about a foot post you moron.

5/18/2017 09:00:00 AM

Okay guy, if it's not about you whining about assignments, then what in the fuck is your point?

The Commander cannot make you do blue cards, period, everyone knows this. So what the fuck are you whining about again?

Don't do them.

Case is closed.

Please shut the fuck up about it.

You are 87 times more annoying than the SWAT team crying about the bosses not liking them.

You can die on your feet or live on your knees. Pick one and keep it to yourself, because nobody cares.

5/18/2017 09:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Quotas are illegal per SCOTUS and State Statute!!

5/18/2017 10:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone complaining about 020 try to remember that you work in 020.

5/19/2017 07:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

9:42am - OT - You are right with the hoopla surrounding Oscar Lopez Rivera and giving him an honorary street sign. Gutierrez & Maldonado make this terrorist out to be a community organizer. FALN planted 4 bombs one night at the County Bldg, Amoco Bldg, 1st Natl Bank Bldg, and old CPD HQ at 11th&State. Three detonated while the bomb at HQ was discovered. This group also attempted an assasination of Pres. Harry Truman but fatally shot a D.C. PO in the process. And the media fawns over Lopez Rivera as if he were Ghandi. Ch 5 lead the lies with the snippet that Lopez Rivera was pardoned by Obummer for "seditious conspiracy" which the average viewer does not understand is actually a terrorist plot. One more reason why a once great city is now a shit show. But have no fear - Wheezee will save our city!

Retired .38 spl +P

5/19/2017 11:00:00 AM  

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