Memorial Day OT
This isn't really a "big" holiday coming up, yet the Department is offering OT to everyone who has a regular day off Memorial Day weekend. They're even calling people on furlough and saying you can work all of your days off if you like.
If they don't get enough volunteers, the Department is going to go by reverse seniority to cancel days off - which leads to a few interesting questions:
If they don't get enough volunteers, the Department is going to go by reverse seniority to cancel days off - which leads to a few interesting questions:
- PPO's can't volunteer for the OT initiative - but can their days off be canceled or "adjusted" in the middle of a police period to screw them?
- PO's with under four (or is it five?) years do not get Duty Availability (thanks Dean Angelo for screwing the youngsters). So can the Department cancel their days off using reverse seniority? They aren't available contractually. Do they pick the guy/gal with 5 years? We'd imagine that would make for an interesting grievance should the projected numbers be adequate.
And not that it's in effect at the moment, but can you imagine the Automated Timekeeping trying to keep up with this rolling disaster next year?
Labels: contract stuff, general
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
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Is there a shortage of police officers in Chicago?
They've been reading off in roll call that all elective time due shall require a to-from to the area deputy. I've never heard of that one for Memorial Day weekend. But it's all legit, CPD is fully staffed. What a fucking joke this city and department is. Rahm could care less about the safety of Chi-towns coppers and its citizens. Strap it down, it's gonna be a long summer.
Heard RDO's are all being cancelled for sure. But there isn't any cars. Every news outlet is focused on Chicagos violence.
The decline of this department is both sad and entertaining at the same time.
Overtime is being offered in 010 EVERYDAY for the summer. Of course the watch commander says that if you do volunteer, you better come in with numbers or else he knows how to "circumvent the contract" so that he can pick and choose who works it.
Good Afternoon,
In my short time here as the 019th District RBT Sgt., I have been impressed with the working relationship between 019th District personnel and the Detective Division.
In order to better facilitate information sharing and foster a better familiarity and comfortable relationship between the Detective Division and Patrol, I am asking each of you to coordinate with the 019th District Watch Lieutenants in order to attend roll calls regularly.
Using this forum will enable you to introduce yourselves to the watch personnel, discuss any issues which may help aid your investigations, along with those that can be improved upon, and share information regarding current crime trends and patterns on going in the 019th District.
I believe cultivating a positive working relationship between us and Patrol can only lead to better teamwork in achieving the common goal of the Department.
Your attention to this matter is appreciated.
SERIOUSLY Sarge??????
Anyone hired on or after 01Jan2015 doesn't receive duty availability for 42 months.
Speaking of Deano, was the call box returned to the FOP President's office?
Just plan on working one of your RDO's that weekend.
The Dept is coming up with some arbitrary number for each day.
Friday, they need (let’s say) 22 Officers in that DOG. However, there are only 12, including officers on Furlough, Medical IOD. That leaves 10 short of the Dept’s number, so reverse seniority happens. This means every officer in that DOG works.
They have already told officers with 15, 18, 20, and 25 years on that they are working. 25 years on, and you’re getting your DOG canceled because of “Reverse Seniority”? The most senior Officer is getting is Day Off canceled.
But the Department says “We have enough Manpower” and there’s “13,000” Cops on the job.
Any lawyers here? What do I suggest my neighbor's kid do if he's called in on Memorial? He's in the academy. Do the recruits have any rights at all? Can they refuse if not contractually bound?
My Memorial Day was cancelled and I'm on patrol but they are allowing those that have to work that day take doh... waiting to file a grievance patiently.
That's why I only work my regular days. I enjoy my RDO's. Do feel the need for greed.
Only in Chicago Special Ed what Are you going to do hit the medical
If they want to keep getting paid, they will show up when called
Is anyone hoping for cold and rain?
It's people hired after 2015 that don't get Duty availability
duty avaialbity 42 months. has no bearing on the clause in fhe contract about canceling days off. Once you are off probation 18 months the full weight of the contract applies. Stop the blame game and learn your facts
cars... the department has the right to assign as needed... no cars...walk..
While a PPO we worked the IACP detail. We worked something like 12 days straight most days were 14-17 hour days. Nothing like building all that time on the books as a PPO
December 2014 was the cutoff for duty availability. So POs with less than 2 years got screwed out of it.
I'd volunteer. Beatrice's Memorial Day picnic is boring anyway. I'll just get one of her chili dogs to go if I miss the heartburn.
PPO's are at the will of the Dept. While they are on probation the Dept can utilize them any way it chooses.
PO's with under 5 yrs of service can be used for reverse seniority. The Duty Availability check (that's all Dean took away from them) has nothing to do with the use of those officers for any event or ot.
Duty Availability as spelled out by the contract is a pay allowance only and has nothing to do with Actual Officer availability for duty.
People have put there names in the book to get off this weekend and have been approved..so the question is.. If we are so short why are we approving time off? So in other words, if you put in for time off and get it your off and I have an RDO and get called into work? How the fuck does Time off supercede an RDO? can anyone explain that one? FOP can you explain? If we are short the how about people who are supposed to work, let them work and say sorry...no time off!
don't volunteer for shit, make them order you into work and if someone on your watch gets any type of elective time off and you have to work--file a grievance.
that said, having to (figuratively) suck the area chief's dick to use your time is demeaning
(OT) So the mayor who is completely violating federal immigration laws is now giving resources to the illegal criminals inviting more and more into our cash strapped city crime capital shooting central murder Inc. city :
https://onechi.org/resources/
Gee rahm how about some " resources" for the retired Chicago police officers that you took away their healthcare who brought their careers protected citizens in this corrupt city state and county? Mayor also how about some resources to boost our pension fund from the worst finding in the United States of America under 25% find it do to your current leadership you must pay the bills before you incur more bills for the taxpayers! Or maybe the retired police officer's Quick say they're from another country and illegally here and get free healthcare and free resources Yep that will be the ticket then we will be also part of your corruption red machine could we also disobey federal laws and not go to jail? The Felons watch your leadership and the other elected leaders including senator Duckworth and Durban and Tony and the 50 and all the rest who support violating federal immigration laws Shirley they feel they don't have to obey any lies either as it is the judges let them out of jail anyway.
How can you expect any law-enforcement in the city or state to enforce any law's knowing that The top elected people here disregard federal laws how does that work? You have to obey the laws before you break the laws because it makes it more fun correct? I cannot even give someone A traffic citation because it is not fair when you are allowed any other elective or allowed to continue breaking federal laws and then we warding lawbreakers as we are set to lose if we have not already lost billions of dollars in federal money that we so desperately need here.
PPOs in our jurisdiction are being encouraged by management to volunteer, plenty have already signed up.
To all VRI whores-in-training and their white-shirt traitors, Mayor Emanuel says "thanks".
To be clear, it's not everyone 5 years and under who don't get duty availability. It's only people who got hired after January 1st, 2015.
It's just like United Airlines, they come to your house and drag you to work.
Is the fact that it's a holiday considered an emergency? Aren't they only supposed to cancel days off if it's an emergency? This job is getting worse by the day.
duty availability should have never been in any contract for anyone to include supervisors( I was one). Extra pay should be based on your watch, with more pay going to night work. At one time I was an advocate for more pay for faster districts, but now that just about the entire city is a crap hole that would not be feasible or fair;. The entire pay system should be restructured .
I'll do it.
ANSWERS: Yes. Yes. and Yes.
Reckon the liberals in charge will ever figure out the police are not the problem and more police are needed? Don't hold your breath.
J.J.
They did it for the world series. FOP did not go to bat for the new guys. They shouldn't have to pay any union dues untill they start collecting duty availability. What a shame?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Any lawyers here? What do I suggest my neighbor's kid do if he's called in on Memorial? He's in the academy. Do the recruits have any rights at all? Can they refuse if not contractually bound?
You mind your on business and let your neighbor deal with it. Still in the academy and is worried about working a holiday. Did the kid think he was coming on the job and getting all holidays off and maybe days and weekends to. Unbelievable what this job has become.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Any lawyers here? What do I suggest my neighbor's kid do if he's called in on Memorial? He's in the academy. Do the recruits have any rights at all? Can they refuse if not contractually bound?
Tell him to read the contract. Or tell him not to come in and when he gets fired come back on the blog and ask what you should tell them now
Make them cancel.
If cancelled, don't stress over it, it's part of the job, but
you don't have to find work, keep the blinders on.
Of course there's alwYs the medical.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Any lawyers here? What do I suggest my neighbor's kid do if he's called in on Memorial? He's in the academy. Do the recruits have any rights at all? Can they refuse if not contractually bound?
5/22/2017 04:19:00 AM
Tell him to QUIT now. Sounds like a snowflake that can't handle the real world.
He will save himself a lot of future grief.
As for everyone else that is crying like snowflakes, they CAN cancel your day(s) off for any reason they choose. They just have to do it according to the contract. If the department doesn't follow the contract then it's incumbent upon the effected officer(s) to grieve it.
The city is always going to push the contract, it's a numbers game. If they only win 1% of all grievences filled they are still ahead of the game.
Any lawyers here? What do I suggest my neighbor's kid do if he's called in on Memorial? He's in the academy. Do the recruits have any rights at all? Can they refuse if not contractually bound?
5/22/2017 04:19:00 AM
I suggest he or she go into work like his employer is requesting. If they're this upset about missing their first Memorial Day on the job due to work, I'd suggest finding another career. I'm not thrilled about it either, but you may want to let them know that the police department doesn't shut down on holidays. Also, you're suggesting they talk to an attorney about a cancelled RDO? This post has to be a troll, otherwise tell them to just quit now, there are too many entitled cry babies around here already.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Any lawyers here? What do I suggest my neighbor's kid do if he's called in on Memorial? He's in the academy. Do the recruits have any rights at all? Can they refuse if not contractually bound?
5/22/2017 04:19:00 AM
The kid's in the academy and he's worried about working Memorial Day. Maybe he should be thinking about a different occupation
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Any lawyers here? What do I suggest my neighbor's kid do if he's called in on Memorial? He's in the academy. Do the recruits have any rights at all? Can they refuse if not contractually bound?
5/22/2017 04:19:00 AM
He's an adult, not your kid and a PPO in the academy. Keep your nose out of it. What he does or does not do may cost him his job.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Good Afternoon,
In my short time here as the 019th District RBT Sgt., I have been impressed with the working relationship between 019th District personnel and the Detective Division.
In order to better facilitate information sharing and foster a better familiarity and comfortable relationship between the Detective Division and Patrol, I am asking each of you to coordinate with the 019th District Watch Lieutenants in order to attend roll calls regularly.
Using this forum will enable you to introduce yourselves to the watch personnel, discuss any issues which may help aid your investigations, along with those that can be improved upon, and share information regarding current crime trends and patterns on going in the 019th District.
I believe cultivating a positive working relationship between us and Patrol can only lead to better teamwork in achieving the common goal of the Department.
Your attention to this matter is appreciated.
SERIOUSLY Sarge??????
5/22/2017 01:05:00 AM
Sounds like another 10 year wonder boy got promoted and is fine tuning his ass kiss technique. Merit is on the horizon.
Memorial Day is not an emergency it happens every year. Why should elective time off be denied. Where is FOP on this one. If the Department is mismanaged it is not the Patrolman's fault.
A member whose regular day off coincides with an established holiday and who is required to work a regular tour of duty (eight hours) on the holiday will be credited with four hours of pay and twenty hours of compensatory time.
d. Agreement members whose regular day off coincides with an established holiday will not be allowed to voluntarily work the holiday.
Any lawyers here? What do I suggest my neighbor's kid do if he's called in on Memorial? He's in the academy. Do the recruits have any rights at all? Can they refuse if not contractually bound?
5/22/2017 04:19:00 AM
Tell him to shut the fuck up and do as he is told.
There are no car shortages or manpower issues. According to rahm and eddie.... Nothing to see here, move along....
Can someone at HQ confirm if this is RDO cancelled OT Mandatory?
The headline for the May 19-21 issue reads:
"Old Town Crime Being Committed By Outsiders, Officials Say"
No shit!
Is "Outsiders" a new code word for the Amish?
fuck it. check the money box. Funny how the city that is always somehow broke keeps paying for all my shit. Christmas in May!!!
Any lawyers here? What do I suggest my neighbor's kid do if he's called in on Memorial? He's in the academy. Do the recruits have any rights at all? Can they refuse if not contractually bound?
5/22/2017 04:19:00 AM
I know if he doesn't show, he can kiss his job goodbye. He's an at-will employee. He can get shitcanned for anything.
I working all the over time this weekend screw you political hacks from mt greenwood n Bridgeport with your d o nothing inside jobs at HQ not everybody on this job has clout , thankyou rahm n supt Johnson
signed
Edison park rocks
http://www.gopusa.com/seattle-police-must-say-community-member-not-suspect/
Any lawyers out there? Yes, Harry Balczak Esq. III here. Tell that pussy to show up and quit bitching. You as well. In the academy still and acting entitled. Better yet go join a protest group and be a bigger pussy. I'm tired of this nonsense.
Rumor has it county guys working in Dart's friendly petting zoo are planning to be stricken with the Memorial Day Barbque Flu.
Anonymous said...
Any lawyers here? What do I suggest my neighbor's kid do if he's called in on Memorial? He's in the academy. Do the recruits have any rights at all? Can they refuse if not contractually bound?
5/22/2017 04:19:00 AM
Tell him to shut the fuck up and do as he is told.
5/22/2017 11:41:00 AM
Response of the month! +10,000 points!
fuck it. check the money box. Funny how the city that is always somehow broke keeps paying for all my shit. Christmas in May!!!
5/22/2017 02:03:00 PM
Not so funny how The City allows us to cash in on O.T. due to chronic mismanagement and improper front-line staffing levels in Patrol, while at the same time ensuring the CPD pension fund will be insolvent in five years.
Live for today!!!
Anonymous said...
Any lawyers here? What do I suggest my neighbor's kid do if he's called in on Memorial? He's in the academy. Do the recruits have any rights at all? Can they refuse if not contractually bound?
5/22/2017 04:19:00 AM
Tell him to shut the fuck up and do as he is told.
5/22/2017 11:41:00 AM
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Anonymous said...
People have put there names in the book to get off this weekend and have been approved..so the question is.. If we are so short why are we approving time off? So in other words, if you put in for time off and get it your off and I have an RDO and get called into work? How the fuck does Time off supercede an RDO? can anyone explain that one? FOP can you explain? If we are short the how about people who are supposed to work, let them work and say sorry...no time off!
5/22/2017 07:30:00 AM
15% just like the union agreed to.
Overtime is being offered in 010 EVERYDAY for the summer. Of course the watch commander says that if you do volunteer, you better come in with numbers or else he knows how to "circumvent the contract" so that he can pick and choose who works it.
I hope he does. Then I will get paid after I file my grievance without having worked a single second.
Can someone at HQ confirm if this is RDO cancelled OT Mandatory?
5/22/2017 12:32:00
Yes. This RDO cancelled OT Mandatory
-HQ
Retired guy here- when I wanted a day off and they wouldn't give it to me, I would put in a par form and request the day without pay. Their shorts would get in a bunch over that one, but I was never refused
Anonymous said...
Any lawyers here? What do I suggest my neighbor's kid do if he's called in on Memorial? He's in the academy. Do the recruits have any rights at all? Can they refuse if not contractually bound?
5/22/2017 04:19:00 AM
Tell him to shut the fuck up and do as he is told.
5/22/2017 11:41:00 AM
Recruits are "at will employees". They have no rights except to work or get fired. Try saying no to your HRI and watch what happens.
Is the fact that it's a holiday considered an emergency? Aren't they only supposed to cancel days off if it's an emergency? This job is getting worse by the day.
5/22/2017 08:39:00 AM
Just proves that CPD is dangerously under staffed because the twerp murder mayor prefers it that way...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Overtime is being offered in 010 EVERYDAY for the summer. Of course the watch commander says that if you do volunteer, you better come in with numbers or else he knows how to "circumvent the contract" so that he can pick and choose who works it.
5/22/2017 12:58:00 AM
-The watch commander like most of the bosses in 010 is a shithead. I sleep better at night knowing they read this and know how people feel about them.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Any lawyers here? What do I suggest my neighbor's kid do if he's called in on Memorial? He's in the academy. Do the recruits have any rights at all? Can they refuse if not contractually bound?
5/22/2017 04:19:00 AM
Your "neighbors kid"???
If he's in the academy, he does what he's told!!
Refuse? Fire him!!
Tell your "neighbors kid" to find a new line of work. Obviously if he's gonna whine about working a holiday while he's in the academy, he's pretty much worthless!
WTF kind of people are we hiring and better yet, who's the moron who comes here & asks if a recruit in the academy can refuse to work a holiday?
After 30 years I thought I've heard it all, but this takes the cake!!
Duty availability has to do with working all three shifts like when we rotated. It was a benefit that was kept even after the shift rotation ended. It doesn't mean your day off can't be cancelled or that you can't be called in even as a PPO. Read contract once and a while.
this memorial day i'm getting acclimated to taking the holidays off now that retirement is knocking on the door May 25, 2018!!!!!
It's pretty simple, ya see. Rahm is going to borrow $397 M to cover the shortfall, built against the overhaul, and the OH WHAT THE HELL AM I TALKING ABOUT. Rahm and Eddie do not know what they are doing, and particularly Rahm, he keeps playing with the numbers. Numbers for CPS. Numbers of homicides. Numbers of police on the streets. Numbers of streets torn up simultaneously by members of his political contributors. Really, there is nothing to see here. So please, move along. They are going to name a wing at New Trier after me.
Rahm (the carpetbagger)
Off Topic- if you go to zerohedge he explains the teacher pension fund and calls it a Ponzi scheme- which it is. Our Pension is very similar- so talk about cars, retro, vri and the rest- you will probably never get a pension.
At least 4 people on my watch, with over 22 years on, are forced to work one of their RDO's. This manpower shortage goes right back to Shortshanks, when he refused to hire more PO's. It's biting all of us in the ass now. SMDH
Is the fact that it's a holiday considered an emergency? Aren't they only supposed to cancel days off if it's an emergency? This job is getting worse by the day.
5/22/2017 08:39:00 AM
Just proves that CPD is dangerously under staffed because the twerp murder mayor prefers it that way...
5/22/2017 07:10:00 PM
Not dangerously understaffed, just too many po's in the wrong places
Anonymous Anonymous said...
(OT) So the mayor who is completely violating federal immigration laws is now giving resources to the illegal criminals inviting more and more into our cash strapped city crime capital shooting central murder Inc. city :
https://onechi.org/resources/
Gee rahm how about some " resources" for the retired Chicago police officers that you took away their healthcare who brought their careers protected citizens in this corrupt city state and county? Mayor also how about some resources to boost our pension fund from the worst finding in the United States of America under 25% find it do to your current leadership you must pay the bills before you incur more bills for the taxpayers! Or maybe the retired police officer's Quick say they're from another country and illegally here and get free healthcare and free resources Yep that will be the ticket then we will be also part of your corruption red machine could we also disobey federal laws and not go to jail? The Felons watch your leadership and the other elected leaders including senator Duckworth and Durban and Tony and the 50 and all the rest who support violating federal immigration laws Shirley they feel they don't have to obey any lies either as it is the judges let them out of jail anyway.
How can you expect any law-enforcement in the city or state to enforce any law's knowing that The top elected people here disregard federal laws how does that work? You have to obey the laws before you break the laws because it makes it more fun correct? I cannot even give someone A traffic citation because it is not fair when you are allowed any other elective or allowed to continue breaking federal laws and then we warding lawbreakers as we are set to lose if we have not already lost billions of dollars in federal money that we so desperately need here.
5/22/2017 07:44:00 AM
Agreed look at the terrorist attack today in the U.K. Hey rahm you idiot and it will happen here but then again our own unban animals are doing a great terrorism job here right mayor mumbles! What a disgrace!
Overtime is being offered in 010 EVERYDAY for the summer. Of course the watch commander says that if you do volunteer, you better come in with numbers or else he knows how to "circumvent the contract" so that he can pick and choose who works it.
I hope he does. Then I will get paid after I file my grievance without having worked a single second.
I bet you are really scaring the watch commander. Your going to file a grievance with FOP. He is doing tough guy, now go get that pay for not working
5/22/2017 04:19:00 AM
Your "neighbors kid"???
If he's in the academy, he does what he's told!!
Refuse? Fire him!!
Tell your "neighbors kid" to find a new line of work. Obviously if he's gonna whine about working a holiday while he's in the academy, he's pretty much worthless!
WTF kind of people are we hiring and better yet, who's the moron who comes here & asks if a recruit in the academy can refuse to work a holiday?
Guess it's too late. We have been hiring them for a while with this idiot asking this question. Appears all is lost. Hard to believe what happened to the CPD
After 30 years I thought I've heard it all, but this takes the cake!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Off Topic- if you go to zerohedge he explains the teacher pension fund and calls it a Ponzi scheme- which it is. Our Pension is very similar- so talk about cars, retro, vri and the rest- you will probably never get a pension.
5/22/2017 09:26:00 PM
Pension is not a Ponzi scheme. Would have collapsed long ago.Try looking it up. Jesus.
Absolutely, the officers that get duty availability are the reverse seniority. Under 5 years gets the days off. Period. That's the contract.
Who's the WC in 010?
By the way 4th of July is cancelled RDO as well.
My my, how did we get along for all these years without this nonsense, oh yeah real bosses
on May 29th the department has cancelled days off but yet still giving officers
DOH, I am confused how is it possible..
Anonymous said...
Any lawyers here? What do I suggest my neighbor's kid do if he's called in on Memorial? He's in the academy. Do the recruits have any rights at all? Can they refuse if not contractually bound?
5/22/2017 04:19:00 AM
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Recruits are "at will" employees. The Dept can assign them to wherever they like whenever they like.
It is doubtful they will work anything more than a parade though.
Is the cheating investigation resolved?
One of the things no one mentions about our pensions is the return on investments. Those returns are low. Look at bank savings accounts....they pay less than 1% interest.
If and when the economy returns to robust fashion, and returns on investments go up, our pension fund should be in better shape. We'll see.
Overtime is being offered in 010 EVERYDAY for the summer. Of course the watch commander says that if you do volunteer, you better come in with numbers or else he knows how to "circumvent the contract" so that he can pick and choose who works it.
Yes it's easy. After you come in with nothing while getting paid around 53/hour. He doesn't offer you the opportunity to come in and work. There are a number of ways to work around you and plenty of other officers that will work their rdo for time and a half while giving a few parkers. Why should you or anyone be rewarded for doing nothing while making that kind of money? You are not answering jobs, running around all day dealing with anything. You're there simply to deter crime and that involves street stops, vehicle stops etc.
13 thousand strong
Just ask Eddie B
Just ask 9.5 fingers
Just ask Rod Sawyer
Just ask any Alderman or women. We are 13 thousand strong
The Budget doesn't Lie
No need to even have Overtime with a workforce of 13 thousand Strong
Recently Retired Veteran of 34 years says....
Take the time and bank it. At this rate, when you retire you will get three payout checks totaling in the 100,000 range. Even better, if you make rank, those PPO hours are now worth sergeant money. Better than the stock market!
Ka-ching!
010 is the dump zone for triple merit hacks. what a joke especially the midget on 1st watch...
smh
to 05/22/2017 04:19am tell your neighbors kid to act like a man apparently he was never in military he will stll get paid on the 1 n 16th, what a cry baby I have 25 years and I will working my days off I don't have clout or live in Bridgeport or mt greenwood
Edison park rocks
I'm not working Overtime, Ive been to many Funerals of friends,Im Investing properly.
Overtime is being offered in 010 EVERYDAY for the summer. Of course the watch commander says that if you do volunteer, you better come in with numbers or else he knows how to "circumvent the contract" so that he can pick and choose who works it.
Yes it's easy. After you come in with nothing while getting paid around 53/hour. He doesn't offer you the opportunity to come in and work. There are a number of ways to work around you and plenty of other officers that will work their rdo for time and a half while giving a few parkers. Why should you or anyone be rewarded for doing nothing while making that kind of money? You are not answering jobs, running around all day dealing with anything. You're there simply to deter crime and that involves street stops, vehicle stops etc.
5/23/2017 01:52:00 PM
If they are offering overtime it has to go by seniority. Maybe that would have worked in whatever cake ass unit he was in before, where people would be afraid of getting dumped for grieving, but it's not gonna happen in district.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Recently Retired Veteran of 34 years says....
Take the time and bank it. At this rate, when you retire you will get three payout checks totaling in the 100,000 range. Even better, if you make rank, those PPO hours are now worth sergeant money. Better than the stock market!
Ka-ching!
Know a few captains that retired getting paid at captains rate for hours they earned when they were patrolmen.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
One of the things no one mentions about our pensions is the return on investments. Those returns are low. Look at bank savings accounts....they pay less than 1% interest.
If and when the economy returns to robust fashion, and returns on investments go up, our pension fund should be in better shape. We'll see.
Pension fund is limited to what they can invest in and the amount they can invest in in certain sections. They higher the risk the higher the returns but they can't take the risks because they need a reserve to pay the monthly pension checks. They can't afford to take a hit on a huge market drop because the checks still get issued each month
If and when the economy returns to robust fashion, and returns on investments go up, our pension fund should be in better shape. We'll see.
5/23/2017 12:45:00 PM
According to the Rauner/Emanuel/Madigan circle jerk master plan...
Once the State of Illinois and City of Chicago begin bankruptcy proceedings, public pension benefits will be significantly reduced. Only then will the CPD pension fund be in better shape.
All they ask for is a little more time to not pass two more state budgets.
They're really close.
Fuck it. It rains every Memorial Day anyway.
To the FOP if you don't get on your toes and start doing something about this manpower shortage you're going to have a lot of members very upset because their entire summer's days off are all canceled Nothing worse than looking forward to being off on a holiday weekend but to have the city force in order everybody to work their days off Do you have a graduation birthday or family reunion on one of those holiday weekends and gets stuck it in the butt by the city that's missed managed our manpower
To the poster who does not think the teachers fund is not a ponzi scheme. Look up the definition of a ponzi scheme. It basically states that old investors ( retirees) are being paid from the proceeds of new investors ( those now working) rather than the income from the investment vehicle. Now look at the out flow of funds from the teachers fund and the lack of income from investments. Our pension fund is basically the same, those now working are paying for the retirees not from the income of the fund. Just look up the definition.
Where are you getting your info about overtime in the 010th dist. I assume you mean 3rd watch; no one has been denied to work their rdo..no pressure for activity...all the wc said was bring in something, even just a few parkers so that we can justify the ot and keep it going so that we can all make some money..the watch sec is constantly askibg people to work...all people..
Get the Body Bags Ready Again , I hope the ASS WIPE Mayor had enough sense to Order all the Boxes of Bags ahead of time , But I'm sure they didn't , They'll hold one of there silly ass Marches the next Day. STAY FETAL GUYS
To the FOP if you don't get on your toes and start doing something about this manpower shortage you're going to have a lot of members very upset because their entire summer's days off are all canceled Nothing worse than looking forward to being off on a holiday weekend but to have the city force in order everybody to work their days off Do you have a graduation birthday or family reunion on one of those holiday weekends and gets stuck it in the butt by the city that's missed managed our manpower
Isn't that why you get duty "availability"? Maybe a low paying 9 to 5 is more your speed. So you can make your party I mean. Suck it up pal.
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Sounds like another 10 year wonder boy got promoted and is fine tuning his ass kiss technique. Merit is on the horizon.
5/22/2017 11:14:00 AM
Yeah! What a moron! He wants the officers working in the district and the detectives assigned there to actually get to know each other? What a terrible idea!
You fucking morons will find anything to complain about. Going to roll call to meet the officers in the district is actually a great idea, with zero downside. It should happen everywhere.
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