Friday, January 15, 2016

NBC Coverage

  • Across Chicago, the cop grumbles are almost as loud as the sirens.

    The police discontent stems not only from increased scrutiny, including a U.S. Justice Department investigation, but new two page forms, which officers must now fill out after every stop on the street.
Not precisely true, but you can't expect the media to get it always correct, can you? We have to fill out one of these for every single individual whom we take any sort of investigatory action on. That means if you stop three or four gang bangers, each one is a separate and distinct ISR report, each taking between 15 and 25 minutes to complete, each with a receipt given unless they get some other form of paperwork (tickets, arrest). That's a hour or more off the street or off the radio.
  • On the Second City Cop blog, one officer declared, “What a complete joke!” Another said he planned to “just drive around and wave at the fine, fine people in the neighborhood,” while a third predicted “I say the 500 homicide mark gets passed by 1 October!”
Um, how do these media types know these are officers? They have some sort of insight or crystal ball or program or something? The fact is, we cannot and never intend to prove anyone who posts a comment is an officer. We know people identify themselves as not cops, suburban cops, out-of-state cops, relatives of cops, a Keesing Bandit, a SpankDaddy, etc. But the comment forum is open to anyone, even media types. That doesn't make them cops by any stretch of the imagination. You'd think the media would get that.....unless there's some agenda at play here.

Then the ACLU gets in on the act, making this statement with a completely straight face:
  • "We are pleased that there are going to be fewer stops." 
You got that minority community leaders? The ACLU is ecstatic that they've tied the hands of coppers (see the post directly above this one.) They are bragging about it. So when you come bitching that "the police aren't doing their jobs!" we're just going to point you in the direction of the ACLU and say, "This is what they demanded and got. Take it up with them. Here's your report, have a nice day."
  • The forms are an outgrowth of a settlement between the City and the American Civil Liberties Union, which found in a study last year that stop-and-frisk policies were overwhelmingly concentrated in the city’s black neighborhoods.
You know what else was overwhelmingly concentrated in the city's black neighborhoods last year? We'll give you a hint:
Something like 80% of the homicides. 90% of the aggravated batteries. 80+% of the gun crimes. So it would seem that the community that is under siege might appreciate the effort on the part of the police, even if the ACLU doesn't.

Guess who's going to feel the brunt of the police pullback? HeyJackass is already tracking that, too.

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101 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love SCC!! Media can kiss my ass and so can the ACLU!

1/15/2016 12:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, at least I'm going to have fun.



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Chalkie

1/15/2016 12:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rafts of paper work is the nature of a bureaucracy. It keeps people busy filling the forms out and other people shuffling them from place to place.

1/15/2016 12:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remember this post.

And when the body count continues rising, remember that the ACLU has the power to drop this silly, restrictive requirement any time they choose. The amount of time being spent filling out this additional paperwork simply to placate the ACLU is costing LEO's time on the streets and is going to needlessly cost people lives and property. It's tragic, and anyone with an iota of sense can see it coming.

Sincerely,

NOT AN OFFICER BUT NOT BLIND EITHER

1/15/2016 12:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Have the ACLU patrol the streets

1/15/2016 12:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm looking into other lines of work . I might make 20 but with the terrible fiscal state of the pension system who knows how that's going to turn out . This job is un doable and I didn't sign up to be public enemy #1.

1/15/2016 12:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If we pass 500 homicides by Oct 1 (or sooner), I will buy a round of drinks for everyone at Ira's!!!!

1/15/2016 12:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You know what else was overwhelmingly concentrated in the city's black neighborhoods last year? We'll give you a hint:


Rap music?

1/15/2016 01:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They are not real bright are they ? Not a cop and I made the post " what a complete joke ! " Ray Charles could have seen what the results will be using a corporate paperwork jungle.

1/15/2016 01:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Guess who's going to feel the brunt of the police pullback? HeyJackass is already tracking that, too."


I don't work a ghetto district but I honestly have been praying for the kids, old folks, and innocents in them. Sheesh! The way things are going, 200-300 homicides is looking very possible by the time June rolls around, and unfourtanetly they WILL be some of those homicides. Hell, they already have been this month. Things will only get uglier throughout the summer.

1/15/2016 01:46:00 AM  
Anonymous 29 and a day said...

you are exactly correct Fuck them all

1/15/2016 01:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, according to the media, we're damned if we do, and damned if we don't, right?
Well, Mr./Mrs. "reporter", I'll stick with "damned if I don't". This way, I don't have to worry about any bullshit CR#'s, suspension time, lawsuits, being "motherfucked" by some savage, or better yet; "motherfucked" by some "I pay your salary" know-it-all citizen. I stay out of Federal Court. and best of all, I don't have to deal with you vultures when something goes bad, and you feel like fucking me!

So guess what Mr. / Mrs. "Reporter", let the savages call YOU when they need help.

1/15/2016 02:51:00 AM  
Anonymous The Box Chevy Phantom said...

Heh...

Big Ghetto Baby has royally shit it's pants
since 01 January... The cause is what the ACLU
has been feeding it...

The stink is noticeable and the ACLU runs away
from culpability while laughing up their sleeve.

Clueless ACLU bitch joyously yowling about
being glad for being the catalyst to making
The Police back off on m/fers who sorely need
bothering, as evidenced by the butcher's bill
since 01 January:

May some of Chicago's Death Cultists
coincidentally cross your path when you least
expect it and fix their wanton gaze upon you.

Gads... She'll probably get the "tingles."

Maybe we're slightly desensitized from seeing the horrible
shit so-called human beings do to each other.

If more Dads were around to hang a hard soled, steel-toed
boondocker in every living ass under his roof, Policing and
The Police would not be under attack the way they are.

Welcome to the perpetual grievance nanny state.
The big, shit-spraying, ugly-assed baby midwifed by the ACLU.

Oooooh look... It's got teeth already.
Society guilt-tripped into wet-nursing the bastard.

Here's to Society FINALLY turning it's collective back on these
garden spots of Chicago that are havens for the
death worshippers and the willfully ignorant who
aid, abet, comfort, harbor and support them.

M/Fers like to jaw-jack about the ill effects
of "Warrior Police Culture"and "Police Code of Silence..."

"Da communerty don't trust da Po-leece!"

Poor poor victimized and put-upon community...

Fuck them... Our sympathy thingy ceased working years ago.

50+ years and multiple tens of thousands of "youfs"
maimed and put in graves by other "youfs..."

Ignant Mofo Hollering From Across the Street:
"Where y'all been at?"

Multiples of Billions of unrecoverable tax payer treasure
spent to "level the playing field."

Immeasurable political and media capital burned
in order to "fix" The Police when the collective
powers-that-be have decided that the problems
presented by their core constituency
& numerically superior (to decent citizens) voter base are
NIGH NEAR UNSOLVABLE!

"Let's Throw More Money At It"
has truly reached the point of negative returns.

"Let's Drive The Police and Policing into a corner,"
is all they have.

All these "smartest guy in the room" m/fers from
POTUS on down to Rahm and the assorted lackeys,
henchmen and traitorous running-dogs like the ACLU,
are bereft of any answers to the problems they're so
energetically trying to divert everyone's attention from.

Watch Rahm...
He'd be an amusing little manling
if he weren't so damned dangerous
to the decent and law abiding who
pay an ass-pocket full of freight
only to be intentionally walked
to a stand-still.

This little maniac who vowed to
"stick it in the cops ear" when he
quick-stepped off that jet from D.C.
back in 2010, is now showing up
at Police Stations...

To do what, exactly...

"Oh! Me and the cops are on the same page...
See? I even went out to "listen" to their concerns
and my press people have pictures to prove it."

(In our best "Ghettoese" honed by many years
of viewing "The Shit-Show" from behind the wheel
of a Blue & White)

"Am I'm benevolent an' shit or what?"
So says Rahm but we're not buyin'.

Funny seeing a straight up no-conscience having m/fer
is put to near headlong flight from a presser to avoid
unscripted, hard and pointy questions.

That's no municipal corporation CEO
who "makes the hard choices."

That's a mincing, tip-toeing, vainglorious
shit-ass who's in way too fucking deep
but hopes his spin apparatus changes
channels too fast for the little people
to notice.

Police like you have no friends.

1/15/2016 03:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Simple solution, and what should have been happening. Stop and frisk should have been employed just as often in the affluent white communities as it was in the black communities. If 100 folks a day were stopped in the black community, than 100 folks in the white community should have been stopped.

1/15/2016 03:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Take a page out of their playbook, Chant "77 fields of data, No stops!"

1/15/2016 04:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well maybe it's time for us who comment to moderate ourselves a tad more stringently SCC, for the sake of this fine blog and ourselves.

1/15/2016 05:43:00 AM  
Blogger The Keesing Bandit said...

Would it surprise you to know that I am the prettiest police officer in Area North? Nineteen Paul covers all!

Now, kees me you fool!!!!

1/15/2016 06:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A troll reader thinks a crystal ball? No. The only thing crystal with the media is the meth some of them and their friends like to partake in. Lets face it folks, some of these media types are simply nothing more than members of Cheryl Burtons clown club. Obtaining a journalism degree from the vaunted and often hearalded; often mentioned and consulted and much laughed at Medill School of Journalism is not worth the student loan debt and the paper it is printed on. A HVAC certificate from a good trade school will earn the bearer a far superior income and greater respect of the bearer's community than the aspiring journalist. Let us not be surprised at the inferior product of our local media. Good luck to you all today, especially those assigned to deal with the morons at the black wall street march downtown today.

1/15/2016 06:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The common sense of these politicians is that of a brick wall. They just don't get it because they are too busy pandering for the minority vote. Less police stops = more offenders or potential offenders on the streets of these crime-ridden neighborhoods. Both offenders know the police are doing less and in-turn, get more brave and commit more crime. Notice all the rave last year was BLM and it's BS about the evil police. Yet with the 24 homicides this year and 140+ shootings, you haven't heard a peep from them seeing that ZERO are police-involved. The citizens in these crime-ridden areas want their communities cleaned up and yet when the police do anything, they are met with opposition from the politicians, ACLU, angry groups that yell profanity and throw shit at the cops and the cops are blamed for all the trouble. So NOW the police do less, and the media starts crying because there are less stops, less recovered weapons and less activity? Here is an idea... YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. You either want the police out there and stopping these morons, or you don't and the morons shoot, steal, rob, burglarize and scare the shit out of the citizens in the community. Pick one. Cause the more these politicians and bias groups get in the way, the less the police will do because it isn't worth the BS, losing your career, sued, civilly sued, getting your name tossed into the gutter by the media and losing everything.

1/15/2016 06:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The ACLU is a communist organization, by their own admission. Look it up. More communist agenda for Chicago, the birthplace of the communist party of the USA. Look that up too. We gave the country its first communist president. We have communist radicals teaching at Northwestern and retired after teaching at UIC. Look that up. When you are done with your research, research who you vote for. Democrats in this town are communists.

1/15/2016 06:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ACLU office
180 N Michigan Ave, suite 2300
Chicago Il
60601
Ph 312-201-9740

Give them a call or stop by. I'm sure they would love to hear from you once your done at the ER or police station after getting your ass beaten stabbed shot and robbed and or sexually assaulted.

These are the people who are responsible for your pain and suffering. The ones responsible for the murder count surpassing 1,000 this year.

1/15/2016 07:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's funny as hell how stupid some people can be. A city could be 90% "diversified" and they can't figure out why more "non-diversified" people aren't stopped.
Explain it this way, you don't run radar where no one is speeding!

Take care of each other. Be safe.

J.J.

1/15/2016 07:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thumbs up

1/15/2016 07:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Again true on all counts SCC! The liberal media decides that it must be only cops that post, showing the limited ability and small mindsets of tunnel brain media! They want to spin spin spin lies and anti-police stories to the point of destroying morale even further than the bargain basement it is down to now! We are police the community strangely with the most shootings and murders led by their own population is screaming the loudest to remove policing as it needs to be done how stupid are these people? Is the Chicago public schools education that left leaning? It is winter what is going to happen when the hot dog days of summer arrive? How much more murder and mayhem will innocent people take? On a positive note nice to see innocent citizens tired of being victims taking a stand and putting the animals that attempt to take their lives in a permanent dirt nap state!

My wife works in Naperville and the people she works with there cannot believe she lives in Chicago they say they are "scared" to come here, but I work in the airport when I ask people where they are from they say "Chicago" I ask what area they say "Naperville,Burr Ridge,etc" when I tell them that is not Chicago they say it's easier to remember when they tell others! They want the "street cred" but are "scared" to come here, but how many work here make big money and take it home to their suburban homes? Hmm wait a minute wasn't their an alderman who proposed taxing people out of the city that work here and use our resources, thought at the time idiotic idea but the more I think of it th better it sounds. Here is why you go to pools for example in Naperville or Orland Park where they slap a huge non-residents fee to use it if your from Chicago why not charge fees for using our lake front beaches? They maintain their pools we the beleaguered taxpayers spend millions taking care of lake front, they could use this source of money to fund more of the stolen police pension funds this would be "change we can believe in!"

1/15/2016 07:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Second City Cop, you are exactly right. The ACLU and the media are both the decay of society and the agencies run on ignorance. Never let the facts get in the way of a good argument!

1/15/2016 07:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NBC 5 is not the paragon of journalism. The days of real reporting by icons such as Huntley & Brinkley or Floyd Kalber (WMAQ) are over. The Chi-town rising fiasco, which was constantly hyped when Carol Marin was not urinating on the CPD, is the new standard. Endless self-promotion, hyping the latest drivel in a 5 second "news at 10 ad" and calling a group of 50 protesters a large crowd is the order of the day. If and when a reporter asks you a question - merely state "Sorry, I don't watch your channel or read your rag" and walk away. If they persist, tell them to direct their question to GooglyBoogly at News Affairs.
Verifying your sources is out the window. Stating that an "officer said on SCC" is a prime example of spreading unverified rumors which is far more important than reporting the facts.

A retired dinosaur

1/15/2016 08:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are people detained while the ISR report is drafted and receipt given? If you hold them past the time of the investigation, that's the next civil rights violation class action. Just curious.

1/15/2016 08:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I m a citizen to be clear. I think "stop and frisk" in bad hoods or even north hoods is a solid policing. I have noted in my area and have observed - 2 non neighborhood youth drop pants to shock a young recent college graduate at a Walgreen's. Learned nurse friend robbed out side of the Advocate ER. A string of three hold ups the early Friday after Thanksgiving - Please dont be fetal in Lakeview, Wrigleyville, East Lakeview, Southport. We are big part of the tax base - that support your pay and pension and benefit plans.

I think you are under estimating the silent majority support of your efforts. I have had an alarm system, 4,500 investment in Medeco commercial locks/deadbolts. Is a foid/cc required to walk the family dog? I'm guessing so.

Enjoy most of the blog - but really I think some of contributors are over the top assuming all democrats are anti police and tag us liberals. I am a strong pro union business owner. Income wise should be an R, but I believe in union membership & benefits, health care, education, infrastructure.

Some who contribute are naive! Republicans who verbally support and play the law and order card in public are the same guys who think your all over paid and should eliminate your defined pension plans!

1/15/2016 08:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://townhall.com/columnists/mattbarber/2011/03/25/aclu_communism_is_the_goal/page/full





Now contrast that depiction with ACLU founder Roger Baldwin's candid vision:

I am for socialism, disarmament, and, ultimately, for abolishing the state itself... I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and the sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal.

1/15/2016 08:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No no no, after we pull back the peace loving person will lay down his arms, embrace education and family values. That will show us and prove the ACLU correct.

1/15/2016 08:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What happens when your on s street stop and a 10-1 is called in. The union should be asking that question.

1/15/2016 09:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sometimes When I am posting I pretend I am a single housewife.

The media loves this site. SCC you actually have affected change which many of the so called exempts will never ever do.

And to the lazy troll media beware every post is not gospel we have flamers (NOT the 70's meaning) and plenty of grammar NAZIs who just laugh at the chicago media. Of course this is off the record KONKOL!

And yes I am doing less because that is what i was ordered to do with a wink and a nod.

1/15/2016 09:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stay fetal my friends. Protect the home front

That is all

1/15/2016 09:33:00 AM  
Blogger Transmaster said...

The ACLU is a outfit that just keeps on giving. We have violent veterans at VA Hospitals. Some actually have mental problems that are no fault of their if they ask they get all of the help they need, but they have to ask, most do. Then we have the violent drug soaked bums who use every excuse blame everyone else for their problems. All these "A" holes want is more drugs. In both cases the ACLU makes it difficult to treat them, or for the really bad ones warehouse them. In both cases most of these people windup on the street where the police have to deal with them.....Happy Happy Joy Joy.

1/15/2016 09:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Phil Rogers didn't bother to point out the real causes of this mess but blamed lazy police and new unknown very long form to fill.

1/15/2016 09:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Simple math says that if you take 15 minutes every time you stop someone, you're going to be taking a lot less action. It's likely time for citizens to be proactive and give the cops out there a helping hand; That means concealed carry permits, knowing how to use your gun and actually carrying it. This year's gotten off to a bit of a rough start for a few criminals, they may learn some manners if a pair of them get ventilated every week by a shop owner or good citizen they are trying to hurt or rob.

1/15/2016 09:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(OT) hey media how about looking at Obama economy? You need to investigate this collage Walmart closing hundreds of stores but Americans are working correct?

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_WAL_MART_STORE_CLOSURES?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-01-15-09-18-12

1/15/2016 10:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They have won, the Marxists have won. No problem, I will go to work and collect by $94000 and do NOTHING, answer my jobs, THATS IT. Don't forget guys, these aclu scumbag attorney's support child pornographers, they say it's their right. Look it up. I have. THIS is what our dumb and blind department,mayor,aldermen and politicians cater to. Doesn't get much more pathetic than that. Wait, maybe it does...the media and blm, forgot about those degenerates.

1/15/2016 10:23:00 AM  
Anonymous P.O. Randy Stevens, 018th District said...

Anonymous said... Remember this post.
And when the body count continues rising, remember that the ACLU has the power to drop this silly, restrictive requirement any time they choose. The amount of time being spent filling out this additional paperwork simply to placate the ACLU is costing LEO's time on the streets and is going to needlessly cost people lives and property. It's tragic, and anyone with an iota of sense can see it coming.
Sincerely, NOT AN OFFICER . BUT NOT BLIND EITHER 1/15/2016 12:51:00 AM

Dear Friend:
You are sadly mistaken. The ACLU does NOT have the power to "drop" the ISR requirement. It is part of Illinois Senate Bill 1304, "The Police and Community Relations Improvement Act," effective January 1, 2016. The ISR and the search-receipt is now "set in stone," required under Illinois Law, and it applies to every single police department in Illinois, not just Chicago. It also creates a state-wide database for all street stops in every Illinois city, town, and hamlet.

After the ACLU's "triumph" in getting this legislation passed, do you seriously think they will ever reverse themselves and ask the politicians in Springfield to re-write the law to eliminate the ISR and the database? That idea is laughable!

The ISR will probably be with us for decades to come.

1/15/2016 10:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To you bonehead stupivisors and brass, DON'T YOU DARE ask us for numbers or threaten us about coming in with zeros every night, OUR jobs,pensions,homes and freedom is on the line, NOT YOURS!!!! YOU go get the numbers to keep your clout spots. FUCK YOU!!!! hopefully the feds investigate THAT when they come here. Your quotas every night and for vri. INVESTIGATE THAT!!!! Merit hacks...

1/15/2016 10:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Pigpen said...

And I used to think NBC were good people, gee was I wrong.

1/15/2016 10:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck you media, aclu, you and these attorney's are THE SCUM of this once great nation. How the fuck do you degenerates sleep at night? Do your children know what you do??? Your poor kids, if they only knew what garbage their parents really are...and criminals...always a fuck you :)

1/15/2016 10:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's like we're living in Gotham City

1/15/2016 10:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Apparently the ACLU feels it is better to be stopped by a bullet then by the police. Since most shootings here are black on black there is no discrimination. No racist police. Together we can.

1/15/2016 10:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are these the same areas yelling for more police?
Send the police where they are appreciated, supported and wanted. Start with my block.

1/15/2016 11:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Hot Pursuit said...

Bottom line, these liberals have made an excuse for everything....the gun did it, not the asshole who decided to pull the trigger.
The non-compliance may have had a contributing factor or two...nope, people should be allowed to spit at you or throw hands or kick you..... so NBC, next time your standing around sensationalizing some kids head blown off you can go out and deal with the whining and screaming and all that non compliant shit trying to get the badguy.

1/15/2016 11:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

complete isr if several cars make street stops at the same time go down on reports to complete isr districts will have a back log , throw a few cars down on a tvb
supervisors will be answering the calls

1/15/2016 11:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm basically adopting the firemen policy in the burbs. Belt off, vest off, boots off while I lay on the couch waiting for a call. No one ever got arrested for being lazy

1/15/2016 12:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You're an idiot. Hope you're not a journalist. Sounds like you have no desire in this matter so it would suck to have to write about it
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 Anonymous said...

Are people detained while the ISR report is drafted and receipt given? If you hold them past the time of the investigation, that's the next civil rights violation class action. Just curious.

1/15/2016 12:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Definitely a spankdaddy here, as well as big fan of this website. Keep up the good work and keep telling the truth.

1/15/2016 12:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Noone thought this through. I did a contact card on a vice lord at 0100 hours. At the same time a gd got shot a few miles away. The gd named the vice lord as the shooter. I shit you not, the vice lords pd subpoena'd me and the vice lord beat the bullshit agg batt. About a year later same vice lord gave me credible info on a homicide.

1/15/2016 12:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The real problem for leftists is that "Stop and Frisk" policing WORKS. It's proven in real statistics.

So "they" use the arms length, but metastasized "independent" ACLU to do the dirty work of attacking policies that work. Notice the ACLU is quite selective about what they choose to defend and what they choose to attack.

The ACLU is a communist organization.

1/15/2016 12:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT Did anyone but me catch Phil Ponce and the Chapman family lawyer last night? UNBELIEVEABLE - CAN HE EVER SPIN. Not one mention of car-jacking - "kid joined friends to joy ride".

1/15/2016 01:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Simple solution, and what should have been happening. Stop and frisk should have been employed just as often in the affluent white communities as it was in the black communities. If 100 folks a day were stopped in the black community, than 100 folks in the white community should have been stopped.

1/15/2016 03:40:00 AM

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Joe Avg Public here.

Why would you think to do "stop and frisks" in areas of low crime? Wouldnt the stats tell you that, based on the numbers, these areas have little to no crime, so focusing efforts to prevent crime, that statistically does not exist, would be a waste of time, effort and resources?

If you have areas of high crime, based on the stats and numbers, wouldnt it be logical to focus your efforts in those areas, in order to potentially reduce crime? I would think so, but "Civil Leaders", Revruns and ACLU attorneys disagree. The innocent in those areas, should this experiment not pan out, should bring this up with those people, (hopefully it wont happen, but....stats and all....)if things go south. Their is a massive issue with accountability in some areas. When the city has the biggest checkbook around, and isnt held responsible for opening it, criminal attorneys would be foolish to not dip into that pile of coins, like Scrooge McDuck.

This certainly appears to be a "damned if you do" situation for the police. Just know that there are tons of people who appreciate your efforts. We want you to feel safe. We appreciate(d) your efforts in the past, but under today's new conditions, do what you can to do your jobs, and stay safe. Its not worth you losing your jobs anymore. Plenty of people can see whats really going on.

Let the dangerous areas celebrate their "win", for the time being. A cleansing is due, anyway. Im sure Chalkie was expecting a nice vacation, but that poor guy is going to be doing overtime this year.

Good Luck everyone with your impending caffeine and Netflix addictions!


Suburbanite who will be keeping his tax dollars out in the burbs for a while.

1/15/2016 01:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
What happens when your on s street stop and a 10-1 is called in. The union should be asking that question.

1/15/2016 09:06:00 AM

You drop everything and go to the 10-1! It's a no brainer. Scary that you are even asking.

1/15/2016 01:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
I m a citizen to be clear. I think "stop and frisk" in bad hoods or even north hoods is a solid policing. I have noted in my area and have observed - 2 non neighborhood youth drop pants to shock a young recent college graduate at a Walgreen's. Learned nurse friend robbed out side of the Advocate ER. A string of three hold ups the early Friday after Thanksgiving - Please dont be fetal in Lakeview, Wrigleyville, East Lakeview, Southport. We are big part of the tax base - that support your pay and pension and benefit plans.
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Citizen here. I dont think you fully understand the CPD's predicament here. While they certainly WANT to prevent crime in your area, they now have their hands tied. They cant perform the things they used to do.

I would hope that you have your firearms card and a CCL, because that, based on this weeks efforts on the south side robberies, seem to be more effective at preventing crime than asking CPD to break their own laws they must follow and risk their careers and lives.

Its like that Reverend in Blazing Saddles once said...



"Son......you're on your own......"

1/15/2016 01:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well said

1/15/2016 01:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Simple solution, and what should have been happening. Stop and frisk should have been employed just as often in the affluent white communities as it was in the black communities. If 100 folks a day were stopped in the black community, than 100 folks in the white community should have been stopped.

1/15/2016 03:40:00 AM

I live in a white community in Chicago, not affluent but predominately white. You will be hard pressed to match the numbers in a white community compared to a black community. 2 a.m. in a black community is like 2 p.m. in other communities. There are no open air drug markets in my community, nobody hanging out in the streets blaring shit music, drinking vodka from a plastic cup, no "private clubs" on every corner. And nobody getting shot every 3 minutes. I also don't have crack heads roaming the streets in my community looking for any opportunity to make a buck and so they can buy drugs. The reason these things take place in the black community is because it is tolerated and deemed part of "black culture". Stop acting like animals and you won't be treated like one, it's as simple as that.

1/15/2016 01:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is for the media trolls: Many comments on this site are exaggerated to illustrate the ridiculous and sad state of affairs we are now in. Furthermore, anyone with a smartphone can post and they could be a hipster smoking weed in California rather than a Chicago cop. As for the destruction of society, start with Obama and then work your way down the leftist path till you reach the ACLU then the reverends, etc. They will be solely to blame for restricting our ability to control crime. The blood and terror will be on their hands as well as the media's for inciting all of this nonsense. People are not and will not be safe, especially in the neighborhoods they are allegedly protecting.

1/15/2016 02:06:00 PM  
Anonymous scooter46 said...

If anyone thinks that all of this violence will stay confined within the ghetto, they are sadly mistaken. As the yutes become more emboldened by the obvious lack of police involvement, they'll be heading more frequently to the more affluent areas. You can make a lot more money thumping somebody window shopping on Boul Mich than some poor dummy down in da hood. It's already started in Wrigleyville and the libs are screeching for more police presence.

If you don't live in Chicago, why the hell would you shop here? Run on out to Oak Brook Plaza and shop in peace. For now.

1/15/2016 02:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Always fetal said...

Glad to know the media scum are trolling the blog. Hey scumbags, go back to BarrackObama.com with the rest of the worthless folks of our declining society. Leave us adults alone.

1/15/2016 02:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


"Simple solution, and what should have been happening. Stop and frisk should have been employed just as often in the affluent white communities as it was in the black communities. If 100 folks a day were stopped in the black community, than 100 folks in the white community should have been stopped."

When the crime in White communities equals the crime rate in black communities this will make some sense. Until then, it's incredibly retarded.

1/15/2016 02:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, I see it now: the police stop just about every street stop and search. The people are pleased. They now love the police and dance with them in the streets. The people now call the police with information about crimes and volunteer to be witnesses and testify in court. There is now a new partnership with the police and community. The gang members and other sociopaths are now afraid of being outed by the community and they give up their criminal ways and all is good in the community.Crime plunges and gang members are now staying in school and getting good grades and actually graduating and getting jobs. They even turned in their guns at a police buy back. We knew this would happen. Signed; Your lOcal ACLU chapter

1/15/2016 02:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
I m a citizen to be clear. I think "stop and frisk" in bad hoods or even north hoods is a solid policing. I have noted in my area and have observed - 2 non neighborhood youth drop pants to shock a young recent college graduate at a Walgreen's. Learned nurse friend robbed out side of the Advocate ER. A string of three hold ups the early Friday after Thanksgiving - Please dont be fetal in Lakeview, Wrigleyville, East Lakeview, Southport. We are big part of the tax base - that support your pay and pension and benefit plans.

I think you are under estimating the silent majority support of your efforts. I have had an alarm system, 4,500 investment in Medeco commercial locks/deadbolts. Is a foid/cc required to walk the family dog? I'm guessing so.

Enjoy most of the blog - but really I think some of contributors are over the top assuming all democrats are anti police and tag us liberals. I am a strong pro union business owner. Income wise should be an R, but I believe in union membership & benefits, health care, education, infrastructure.

Some who contribute are naive! Republicans who verbally support and play the law and order card in public are the same guys who think your all over paid and should eliminate your defined pension plans!

1/15/2016 08:24:00 AM

I think I would like you, if I met you.
Your one problem is, as you stated... you're in the 'silent' majority.

Citizens, you'd better step up, make your voices heard, participate and demand (the same way the vocal minority of protesters do).
Or else the entire tenor of this city and this country will change irretrievably.

1/15/2016 03:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
If we pass 500 homicides by Oct 1 (or sooner), I will buy a round of drinks for everyone at Ira's!!!!

1/15/2016 12:58:00 AM
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Good luck with that.

1/15/2016 03:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Remember this post.

And when the body count continues rising, remember that the ACLU has the power to drop this silly, restrictive requirement any time they choose. The amount of time being spent filling out this additional paperwork simply to placate the ACLU is costing LEO's time on the streets and is going to needlessly cost people lives and property. It's tragic, and anyone with an iota of sense can see it coming.

Sincerely,

NOT AN OFFICER BUT NOT BLIND EITHER

1/15/2016 12:51:00 AM


Whenever THEY choose? Did someone die and 'they' inherited the crown and now control the populace?

1/15/2016 03:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A smart P.O. will make his lunch at home, something he likes and the beverage of choice and take it with him and eat in the station where he can relax and not be watched by some Police hater, take his vest off ,call his significant other, relax without external stress, take a crap without wondering what vermin was there before, wash your hands and be reasonably assured no one pissed in the sink before you got there and NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR SOME JAG LOOKING TO PISS YOU OFF IN THE ONLY TIME YOU CAN CALL YOUR OWN.

1/15/2016 03:37:00 PM  
Blogger SpankDaddy said...

You're damned right you have a SpankDaddy. The women are happy that you have a SpankDaddy.

1/15/2016 03:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stop Doing Pro-Active Police Work! Do What Is Required And Nothing Else! Give Them The Police Department That They Want. They Cannot Make You Be Pro-Active!

1/15/2016 03:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey media with things like this happening, abc7 producer murdered maybe you should change your mid sets and support police, who else are you going to call?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-executive-producer-at-channel-7-found-murdered-in-belize-20160115-story.html

1/15/2016 04:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If another citizen tells me I am to pretty to be a police officer, I'm gonna scream.

1/15/2016 04:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Police work is nothing like it was when I came on the job 34 years ago. I was glad to retire and get out. My Son gets out of the Army the end of this year. He wanted to follow in my footsteps and become a cop as well. I told him to forget about that and to consider being a fireman instead. You're far less likely to get sued, shot, stabbed, attacked, or falsely accused of being a racist. All of my cop friends seem to be telling their kids the same thing. I weep when I think about the quality of candidate area PDs will be getting in the future.

1/15/2016 05:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No street stops no peace
No justice metted out to criminals no peace
No arrests no peace
No proactive police department no peace.
Protesters take your no peace Chanting and shove it, now it's our turn. Now you will find out the true meaning of no peace.

1/15/2016 05:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Paul Kersey said...

Takin the pooch for a stroll at night in Lakeview alone? Fuggedaboutit. Its always me, the pooch and Mssrs. Sturm, Ruger and Hornady. Nobody be botherin us, no how.

1/15/2016 06:05:00 PM  
Anonymous RealityCheckLLC said...

"We are pleased that there are going to be fewer stops."

-- American Civil Liberties Union

Translation -- "We are pleased that there is going to be more crime."

1/15/2016 07:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Take a page out of their playbook, Chant "77 fields of data, No stops!"

1/15/2016 04:29:00 AM

"AN' A COVERUP!"

>grin<

#timewastedfillingoutformsmatters

1/15/2016 07:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"What happens when you're on a street stop and a 10-1 is called in?"

1/15/2016 09:06:00 AM

Cloud of dust with a bunch of ISRs fluttering around.

1/15/2016 07:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Back in the 70's, when NU's football team had the longest loosing streak in history, we had a ninckname for the Medill School of Journalism students - MEDILLDOS!

1/15/2016 10:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The majority of the police do their job by: showing up to work, answering their jobs, doing a few parkers, occasional mover, and backing up each other. The "workers" who needed that activity for the glorified spots (tact, management, units) to make themselves and/or their bosses look good will have to rethink whether its truly worth it. The good people that live in high crime areas will suffer. The majority of police will get paid more to do less, not bad at all. This will take the life out of the top 10-20% of the department that works and will take the fear of the police out of the criminal's mind. Adjust and move on....help those you can and move safely one day at a time to retirement and make friends along the way. Its not what it used be and it never will be again. Stay safe!

1/15/2016 10:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
NBC 5 is not the paragon of journalism. The days of real reporting by icons such as Huntley & Brinkley or Floyd Kalber (WMAQ) are over. The Chi-town rising fiasco, which was constantly hyped when Carol Marin was not urinating on the CPD, is the new standard. Endless self-promotion, hyping the latest drivel in a 5 second "news at 10 ad" and calling a group of 50 protesters a large crowd is the order of the day. If and when a reporter asks you a question - merely state "Sorry, I don't watch your channel or read your rag" and walk away. If they persist, tell them to direct their question to GooglyBoogly at News Affairs.
Verifying your sources is out the window. Stating that an "officer said on SCC" is a prime example of spreading unverified rumors which is far more important than reporting the facts.

A retired dinosaur

1/15/2016 08:10:00 AM

If and when a "reporter" asks you a question,don't say anything.Just walk away.

1/15/2016 10:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stay fetal. Retired 20th Century cop.

1/15/2016 11:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Im sure Chalkie was expecting a nice vacation, but that poor guy is going to be doing overtime this year.


1/15/2016 01:23:00 PM



My work is my vacation.






Chalkie

1/16/2016 12:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Police work is nothing like it was when I came on the job 34 years ago. I was glad to retire and get out. My Son gets out of the Army the end of this year. He wanted to follow in my footsteps and become a cop as well. I told him to forget about that and to consider being a fireman instead. You're far less likely to get sued, shot, stabbed, attacked, or falsely accused of being a racist. All of my cop friends seem to be telling their kids the same thing. I weep when I think about the quality of candidate area PDs will be getting in the future.

1/15/2016 05:18:00 PM

That's because he respects you and your family tradition of service. Maybe you have a friend who can lose his application interview in the circular file.

1/16/2016 12:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
If another citizen tells me I am to pretty to be a police officer, I'm gonna scream.

1/15/2016 04:46:00 PM

Unless you're a guy, just say thank you.

1/16/2016 12:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT Did anyone but me catch Phil Ponce and the Chapman family lawyer last night? UNBELIEVEABLE - CAN HE EVER SPIN. Not one mention of car-jacking - "kid joined friends to joy ride".

1/15/2016 01:04:00 PM

Saw it. There was a lot of spin, but even the lawyer's version makes it pretty clear the offender wasn't intentionally assassinated.)
Two things jumped out at me: 1) the lawyer asserted the kid exited his car (no, he exited the vehicle he STOLE) and 2) Ponce just nods and smiles and asks NO hard questions. The man is no longer anything but a hairstyle who inhales audibly.

1/16/2016 12:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


If another citizen tells me I am to pretty to be a police officer, I'm gonna scream.

1/15/2016 04:46:00 PM

Quit fishing for compliments Dave Harris. Wasn't making captain enough?

1/16/2016 12:42:00 AM  
Blogger Mr. SouthSide said...

You forgot about me. What am I? Chopped liver?

1/16/2016 06:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A troll: To the earlier poster I assume from a police lady who is about to scream because she is told she is too beautiful to be the police; you should rather enjoy the compliment. When anyone notices the beauty in another person, you should be flattered. Otherwise, one day you will get your wish and you will wish you felt like screaming again. I saw one when time in that 13 restaurant in south loop one time who could easily disarm me or have me against a wall or have me running TO her by smiling at me.
Maybe it was you?

Finally, to the lady who supports the police and complains about ignorant Republicans; do not think you are NOT part of the problem. Voting has consequences and you need to reconsider people like Obama, Rahm and other nit wits who do damage to our society in gain of their own political fortunes. Stand in the mirror and repeat: social programs, lack of school choice, medical choice and other government social policies have created the entitlment culture that cannot survive in the world and is starting to implode in crime, poverty and failure. That is why you are seeing them in the street. You do not really support the police, law and order or social justice. You are simply kidding yourself as it is loud and clear in your writing. Think about it before you vote Democrat again.

Now I have to go back to making my picket sign for North Central College in Naperville Monday night. A racist who claims to be the founder of black lives matter is speaking at the Wentz Art Center. Shame on you North Central for perpetuating racism in our community in an attempt to be relevant.

1/16/2016 06:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
If another citizen tells me I am to pretty to be a police officer, I'm gonna scream.

1/15/2016 04:46:00 PM

You must be one good looking man.

1/16/2016 07:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
If another citizen tells me I am to pretty to be a police officer, I'm gonna scream.

1/15/2016 04:46:00 PM

Then put a bag over your head ya bimbo....or mimbo!

Like you're the only one that has happened to???

Get over yourself.

Unless you're a George Clooney clone, then carry on.

Can't believe with all the turmoil surrounding you that that is your beef. You must work in the 001 district or something.

1/16/2016 07:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
A smart P.O. will make his lunch at home, something he likes and the beverage of choice and take it with him and eat in the station where he can relax and not be watched by some Police hater, take his vest off ,call his significant other, relax without external stress, take a crap without wondering what vermin was there before, wash your hands and be reasonably assured no one pissed in the sink before you got there and NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR SOME JAG LOOKING TO PISS YOU OFF IN THE ONLY TIME YOU CAN CALL YOUR OWN.

1/15/2016 03:37:00 PM

And you think all of the above can happen in the station? Bwahahaha!

1/16/2016 07:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
A smart P.O. will make his lunch at home, something he likes and the beverage of choice and take it with him and eat in the station where he can relax and not be watched by some Police hater, take his vest off ,call his significant other, relax without external stress, take a crap without wondering what vermin was there before, wash your hands and be reasonably assured no one pissed in the sink before you got there and NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR SOME JAG LOOKING TO PISS YOU OFF IN THE ONLY TIME YOU CAN CALL YOUR OWN.

1/15/2016 03:37:00 PM

Good advice. Also save a few bucks too and don't support alot of those who wish us ill will behind the counters.

1/16/2016 10:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think I would like you, if I met you.
Your one problem is, as you stated... you're in the 'silent' majority.

Citizens, you'd better step up, make your voices heard, participate and demand (the same way the vocal minority of protesters do).
Or else the entire tenor of this city and this country will change irretrievably.


1/15/2016 03:12:00 PM

Amen!!

1/16/2016 10:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

"Simple solution, and what should have been happening. Stop and frisk should have been employed just as often in the affluent white communities as it was in the black communities. If 100 folks a day were stopped in the black community, than 100 folks in the white community should have been stopped."

When the crime in White communities equals the crime rate in black communities this will make some sense. Until then, it's incredibly retarded.

1/15/2016 02:38:00 PM

First poster is a moron. No common sense, maybe someone he/she knows can explain it to them...

1/16/2016 10:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I saw the comment they were referring to about waving. I read it as someone who is not a cop, nor had seen these forms before. I believe his comments were, "I would not do these forms," and " I would just wave". There was a reason they did not post the actual comment, just paraphrased it.

1/16/2016 03:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gettin sick of the "protect and serve" bullshit thrown in my face. Here's my definition.

I protect and serve:

1. Myself and my family first

2. Brothers/sisters in blue

3. The public

1/16/2016 03:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
If another citizen tells me I am to pretty to be a police officer, I'm gonna scream.

1/15/2016 04:46:00 PM

----------------------------

Hard as it is, I'll be a good guy here and leave that straight line of your's alone.

1/16/2016 04:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

... a Keesing Bandit, a SpankDaddy, etc. But the comment forum is open to anyone...

Don't forget Chalkie !

1/16/2016 11:15:00 PM  
Blogger The Keesing Bandit said...

You can never be too pretty to be a police officer. I am proof positive of that.

Now, kees me you fool!!!!

1/17/2016 06:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't forget Chalkie !

1/16/2016 11:15:00 PM


Actually, I prefer my clients to never see me coming.

Just like Bob.





Chalkie

1/18/2016 04:48:00 PM  
Blogger The Keesing Bandit said...

I am a guy and I do say thank you.

Now, kees me you fool!!!!

6/03/2016 06:17:00 AM  

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