Job Action at NYPD
Of course, even advocating action like this here will get you brought up on charges and fired, but this is a helluva move by the NYPD Union:
- Nypd beat cops posted a police-union warning in every precinct yesterday instructing officers not to go above and beyond the call of duty — or risk losing their jobs because of the new stop-and-frisk laws, The Post has learned.
“All officers should take action if he or she sees a crime in progress, or if he or she sees that his or her life or the life of another person is in danger . . . [But] all officers should be careful not to initiate any law-enforcement action that could be construed as violating the new legislation and subject the officer to legal action,” read the memo by Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association president Patrick Lynch.
Several rank-and-file cops said yesterday that they plan on following Lynch’s advice rather than risk their careers.
“We are being told not to look for perpetrators of crimes because then we are opening ourselves up to a lawsuit and the job isn’t going to represent us,” a police source said.
“Crime is about to skyrocket. We are going to show up and take reports. This was the safest city in the country . . . Now most crimes will go unsolved.”
Another source added: “These rookies are just getting on the job out of college. They’re not going to risk their pensions. Arrests are going to drop, and crime’s going to soar.
“It really puts a wrench into law enforcement. They’re going to be second-guessing everything they do.”
Another cop agreed that fear of being sued will hinder investigations — even in rape cases.
“If someone gets raped and says it was a black male, I’m going to be handicapped to stop someone because I could get sued for racial profiling. So now I’m just going to take reports,” the cop said.
Our first thought was, "Hey look! NYPD is copying Chicago this time!" instead of the other way around. We imagine New York will rapidly begin to experience the joys of wildings and armed robberies in broad daylight as Chicago has.
Labels: crime, out-of-state
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
68 Comments:
Thanks!
ACLU for making my job a little easier by justifying doing nothing!
You reap, what you sow Liberal bitches!
Well NYPD brothers that is exactly what has happened here, and now these ass clowns don't like the current condition of the city of Chicago, hey clown all you jag off politicians and judges that tied the hands of the police.
CPD coppers have been getting sued for lawful PC arrests and assessed punitive damages so ur damn skippy we ain't risking our freedoms and pensions for some stupid fucking contact card.
Good luck NYPD
Well the constitution either means something or it don't. Under Obama I think it's just a piece of paper now.
The supreme court don't even matter there are no protections. The king only has to claim that you are a suspected terrorist and BANG all your rights are gone. No right to a speedy trail. No rights to face your accused and see evidence. You may be tortured and/or just held indefinitely in detention.
Meanwhile the corporate banker frauds continue and no one is locked up. The government regulators just stand down and watch -- they even admit the wrong doing in front of congress and the end result is yeah so what.
Take that "Quantitative Easing" for example. It's a fancy name for theft of our savings, pensions, 401K's. It's a tax without calling it a tax.
When Bernanke with a snap of his fingers changes interest rates on the 10 year treasuries from the avg 6% down below 2% it effects all of our pensions, retirement accounts and savings.
Remember two things.
1) it's not just US treasuries that are effected. The minute that rate is changed there is an entire host of other investment that are base upon them.
2) As you get closer to retirement you don't have the luxury of time any more should your savings take a loss. This is exactly why investment pro's lecture people to shift out of risky stocks and into income producing bonds.
Now assumed you saved $1 mil dollars for retirement and expected to live off the 6% interest. You'd have $60K a year to live on without touching the principle.
Now along comes Bernanke and he say's with a snap of his fingers that your money is only worth 1.8%. No one is going to borrow money from your savings and pay you 6% when the government is giving money away at 1.8% and so now your income is a lousy $18K per year instead of $60K thanks to Ben.
Now you're short $42K/ year in your retirement budget. If you pull out principle to make up for the lower interest rates the problem just gets worse and worse each year forward.
You're screwed. Your savings were robbed and they sold you on the lower interest rates are good for the economy bullshit because it create jobs. ha. So where are the jobs? Where?
They have already stolen billions of dollars using this Quantitative Easing mechanism. One day you money was worth 6% if you loaned it out and the next Ben says no you money isn't worth shit. You should only get 1.8% for it.
Anyways, we are approaching the point of chaos where we each have to decide soon if we are with the people or with the corrupt oligarchs that are robbing us ALL blind.
You know all the shit you see go down in those banana republics where .2% of the people control all the wealth. That's us now. Well you're looking at it right here.
“Crime is about to skyrocket. We are going to show up and take reports. This was the safest city in the country . . . Now most crimes will go unsolved.”
...as Rahm laughed, diabolically...
Illinois jails are full baby.
The taxpayers are busted out!
66% state income tax increase.
10.3% real estate tax increase
15~74% CTA fare increases
I don't even remember how much parking meter rates went up they played this obfuscation game of over here vs over there so much. 50% in some places wasn't it?
Water bills up 15%
Then they have the balls to say with a straight face that the cost of living is only going up 2% a year.
SEE THIS IS THE GAME THEY WILL PLAY WITH YOUR COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENTS ON THE PENSIONS. WATCH FOR CHANGES IN THIS IN THE REFORM PROPOSALS.
Gasoline goes up 25% to $5/gal. Oh we'll just take that out of the cost of living formula and tell you that inflation is tame. Then we'll tell you that your pension will receive cost of living adjustments and you can sit there wondering why you can't afford the things you use to.
Cost of living doesn't mean what you think it does. The political apparatus uses a different dictionary.
Yeah the jails are full and don't expect the corporations to be taxed to expand them to make society safer It ain't gonna happen.
With that said there's no need for stop and frisk. We can't afford it.
I've been saying this for years
STOP WORKING
it's just not worth it
I don't blame them. I wouldn't stop anyone either after reading that.
New york will burn.
New York will get the police department they deserve.
“Crime is about to skyrocket. We are going to show up and take reports. This was the safest city in the country . . . Now most crimes will go unsolved.”
What's the last line in all the TV news stories here about shootings and murders where you see some cops and dicks wondering round aimlessly like zombies inside the tapeline?
"Police have no one in custody."
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“If someone gets raped and says it was a black male, I’m going to be handicapped to stop someone because I could get sued for racial profiling. So now I’m just going to take reports,” the cop said.
The problem with NYC's stop and frisk philosophy is that they would stop every single black male they encounter and put them on a wall. Instead of actually reading the description of the offender for important identifiers, such as age, height, weight, etc. Of course some of our tact guys do the same thing. Even if the offender is supposed to be 18, they'll stop 40 year olds.
"So now I’m just going to take reports,”.
Welcome to the CPD school of policing!
This is what I have been doing for a long time now. That is what the political hacks want, that is what the political hacks got.
NYPD here. Proactive policing is dead in new york. This is a direct result of comstat and the numbers driven political smoke screen that resulted from years of manipulating crime statistics. The brass pushed these policies and now they can take responsibility for the results. Stay in your car, look straight ahead, and take a report if needed. I'm just glad I have three years left.
That article made my jaw drop!
I hear those kind of statement everyday around the water cooler.
It is so sad to see.
Rham is running the clock to winter hoping the wilding will stop and murders will taper off.
So to my brothers in NY good luck.
you will get used to looking the other way in a few years , I have.
If NYPD is looking for a leader to show the rank and file how to do nothing then they should hire McDrunky.
For me, proactive is only a dietary supplement.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Hey FlOP.... Don't you wish your breath didn't smell like the mayors bunghole? Could you imagine the mayor after reading something like this here in Chicago? Thank goodness Im a short timer. I can't wait.
For all you believers... Im amazed. For all you young boys n girls.. Im sorry!!
I'm the police, I'm going to serve and protect...my family, friends, and partner. For everyone else, call your alderthief or rahm.
Liberal whites want to get in the way of effective policing. Ok then don't whine and cry when a racially motivated robbery is targeted toward YOU. When your iPhone is stolen right from your hands think about your stupid liberal white guilt caused this to happen
We will show up after the crime and take reports. No problem.
-Garry M
I believe it it most obnoxious to stop anyone unless you can truthfully articulate a reasonable suspension that crime is afoot, without relying on that person's race.
I know plenty of former cowboys and go getters. Once they were sued they completely changed their attitudes. Also IPRA is going to believe a bunch of criminal gang bangers and shit heads over you. Also if a bunch of shit heads make the same repeated complaints against you (i.e. excessive force or handcuffs being too tight, etc.) they will believe them over you.
It's time for FOP and PBPA to do the same in Chicago .
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/shooting_off_their_mouths_QmHlvw5o2O31Hf5wJHlaHP
wont be long before NYC looks like MI ave.
“Crime is about to skyrocket. We are going to show up and take reports. This was the safest city in the country . . . Now most crimes will go unsolved.”
Another source added: “These rookies are just getting on the job out of college. They’re not going to risk their pensions. Arrests are going to drop, and crime’s going to soar.
Damn man. Sounds like here!
reckless conduct and gang loitering and narcotic loitering arrests are the next civil rights violation against minorities in the City of Chicago-tactical teams officers are holding themselves out to dry.
The Cincinnatti Police union did this same thing about 10 or 12 years ago after the mayor of Cincinnatti was less than supportive of his department following a police involved shooting. Once the police stopped being proactive the element took notice and crime soared. To the liberals out there who say that the police are out of control, get ready to see what you have helped create.
New York is a pretty damn expensive place to live and work. Additionally, it is over-populated and congested which make it even more unattractive. Now their police force cannot do it's job without offending someone so the powers that be would rather see criminals be happy and roam unabated rather than defending and supporting the officers who would stop them. This is exactly what happened here in Chicago and if they are clueless to what goes on here, they are about to get a real awakening. I'm sure New York residents will be very happy continuing to pay ever increasing taxes while they are subjected to the devices of the low-lives who will no doubt become emboldened by their new muted police force.
Heh...
Let the raging lib-tards who played the "It's The Police Who Are The Problem" card for many years, enjoy the big city utopia they're about to create.
They're finally having their anti-Police cake and by golly they're aiming to finally eat it in celebration of their "victory" over NYPD...
"UGH! This cake tastes like... >GAG!< SHIIIIIIIIT!"
...Why yes our devotedly slavish lib-tards!
It IS shit and you'll enjoy it.
"Wait a minute... WHY are you cops LAUGHING? Who said it was OK for you dumb, brutal, racist cops to laugh AT US? WE'RE supposed to have the last laugh! Not you relics of a bygone era... STOP IT! If you don't stop we'll have your JOBS!"
Have at it... Get back to us when you figure your scheme to wreck Policing as an appeasement to your constituents to keep the large urban center, liberal democratic political apparatus in power.
WAH! We HATE you cops! You guys are nothing but trouble! How DARE YOU FIGHT US BACK! YOU SWORE AN "OATH!"
Don't confuse an oath with a pldege of allegiance to fuckery for fuckery's sake.
It life in a liberal run large city. Get used to it or move to flyover country.
Two years ago, I moved to Manhattan (from an all-white, no-crime part of Berlin/Germany), and I was flabbergasted because NYC cops are not at all like how they are presented in the movies. They are competent, unbelievably polite and sometimes even funny. They have big smiles on their faces when they pose for pitures with tourists in Little Italy or Grand Central Station. I have seen female cops here who would have been mistaken for 8th graders in Germany.
A friend old me that in the 70s and 80s, New York dog owners had big, ugly, dangerous-looking dogs. Now most dog owners have cutsie teacup doggies a third the size of my cat. I guess they will now go back to having big dogs that look like they can fight.
And you know all these young women with yoga mats? They will switch from yoga and pilates to krav maga within the next two years.
Now... take away the pension that keeps "lifers" here at CPD, and you'll start seeing similarities like charter schools are experiencing throughout the country. Can you imagine a police force where the average copper only stayed 2-5 years? It will be a reality without that carrot dangling as officers progress through their career. Rocky roads a head comrades.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/27/education/at-charter-schools-short-careers-by-choice.html
-JF
the very first day I sat in a squad car the salty old copper who was my partner said "kid, nobody ever got into trouble for doing nothing"--- I immediately thought he was a pooch and made sure I never got stuck with him again--- over the years I have experienced many highs and lows that were job related--- I've seen some good coppers go down for bullshit, sacrificed because it was politically expedient to do so--- the old guy had a point and I should have listened to him....
be proactive in communities that respect and support police , not in communities that shoot , and hit police with baseball bats .
go home safe and back each other up.
Is the air clear? Can I have an event number for looking the other way!
Wait, they're not saying to NOT get a description and stop a guy because he matches it. They're saying to not just randomly stop and frisk anyone who dresses like a thug "just because." Those are two different things, right? But what would I know. I'm (not a cop).
Signed, NAC
one step closer to martial law and socialism.
Soon they will have their version of VRI and pay their guys to work their days off.
The difference is, NYPD is not required to live in NYC
Cant lock up voters dude!
Time to do nothing and act like a democrat collecting a check!
Its much more rewarding.
It's time for Dire Straits MTV hit, MONEY FOR NOTHING!
De Ball the Poleeces and see what yuze get!
These democrat liberal politicians are going to get the New York they so desire...
Chicago is coming to your city...
Good luck brothers in blue!
You too can join in the celebration when you get sued for trying to do your job!
We get paid to be pay attention, to be curious and even nosy - it's a cops job. It's a tool to deter crime, solve crimes, find out who's doing wrong and even who's the good people. Stop and frisk is a needed tool and now cops hands are tied yet again. Watch the crime skyrocket.
How quickly people forget the day after 9/11. Sad.
Just follow the Blue Print policy set in Chicago by the reverends, politicians, and liberal press/courts over the last ten years and the result will be the same for NY as it is now in Chicago.....higher everything....except arrests and prosecutions. We tried and the system failed. Now we must all suffer.
Its coming here too. I saw the court order on holding all contact cards on a hard copy with a "do not destroy" order attached. The hard on these stat monsters have at 35th street for CC's is fucking nuts.
Well, you really want to say that this position is wrong, but then if you think about it, you cannot blame the rank and file for standing down. " Stop and frisk" here has always been you can stop someone, question them and if you think they have a weapon pat them down. I am long gone from the department, but I suspect more then a few search everyone they stop. That seems to have been the case in NY where less then 7 percent of searches resulted in contraband ( I think I have that number right). The liberals will win this and the black race baiters will win this, for now, or at least until things get really bad, and what is going on now is not really bad. Detroit and Newark are really bad, Garry is really bad.
Punitive damages for lawful arrests? Really? Are you sure it wasn't from the 'creative writing' that goes on or the fact that some people have selective memory when it comes to the 4th amendment?
Maybe you know of some cases I don't (care to share the info?) but over the years, I've seen guys get jammed up not because of the ACLU or the "Liberal Bitches" as another person mentioned but because of their own actions or lack of documentation.
I said it once I ll say it again.....
Peace Officers need a percentage of Immunity (like what a Judge has) federally indemnified in the course of their duties.
Not so we can go out and get away with "Rodney Kingin" the folks but seriously so that we can do this job again.
The fear of recourse from Civil Action mixed with soft bosses and some goofballs political agenda can destroy any of our good police. I don't care who you are how aggressive you are what you do did or done we as a public figure doing this job are succeptible to being sued.
National FOP wake the fuck up and find someone to go to congress in our regard. TRY!!!
Present something. Like a CAP on bullshit suits! Or how about NOT allowing suits if it is reviewed by a created State or Federal REVIEW PANEL that must review litigation before it is allowed to be filed to see if there is really a case etc.
Time to combat the real problems of these situations THE LAWYERS representing or referring dude for cases.
3bars
was the initials of that old timer who gave you that advice- CF - because i got the same advice
Anonymous said...
I believe it it most obnoxious to stop anyone unless you can truthfully articulate a reasonable suspension that crime is afoot, without relying on that person's race.
8/27/2013 08:17:00 AM
Shut up and get off the blog you troll liberal jagoff.
Why not plaster the walls of our stations with the N.Y.P.D. Template and become a little more radical? We have become such pussies, I still see people with over 15 years walking in everyday with Parker's and Movers, because they are worried about their cars. In 5 years when you are working 12 hr days for no overtime don't start crying.
Blogger The Keesing Bandit said...
For me, proactive is only a dietary supplement.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
8/27/2013 07:01:00 AM
Too fucking funny! The above comment is one reason why I love this blog. Some copper always makes fun out of a serious situation.
The public gets the police that the politicians and reverends decide to give them.
Good luck New York
A real Union Not FLOP!!!!
Decertify Shields
You always have to articulate a legal reason for a stop. If you go to court enough your furtive movement plain sight, experience /hunch etc., is going to start looking pretty weak but you have to sell it especially your experience.
Anonymous caller says M/1 at the bus stop in a red shirt has a gun in his waistband. You stop him and find the gun. You better have more than an anonymous caller when you go to court.
What is disturbing is the racial aspect. The judge is not taking into consideration what the racial makeup of the area is where the stops are made or the fact that so called minorities are currently the majority in NY.
We have loads of common sense and will act accordingly. Just like when we stopped doing curfews.
I got stopped by the Police one night. I matched a description of a person who was breaking into houses. The officer told me why he was stopping me and mentioned he was going to search me. Here's the thing, I knew I did nothing wrong and I knew I wasn't carrying weapons so I LET THE OFFICER DO HIS JOB. By being polite to the officer, he was respectful to me. I lost 10 mins out of my day...big deal. I would rather have the Police try to find this criminal before he broke into my house.
Not a cop but thankful that someone is. Be safe and keep up the good work SCC.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
I believe it it most obnoxious to stop anyone unless you can truthfully articulate a reasonable suspension that crime is afoot, without relying on that person's race.
8/27/2013 08:17:00 AM
Crime is afoot? A trolling, stupid liberal jagoff who would not know a crime if it hit him in the face, which is probably will. And, who do you think he will call, crying?
I did not know that the NY city council actually passed an ordinance allowing citizens who are stopped and searched to sue the officers personally in state court. I now feel sorry for the NYPD for they work for bigger jag offs then the CPD. The citizens of the city will pay a price for the white liberalism that is in NY. Will it get that bad here? Possibly if you let the white liberal establishment, the phony reverends and our corrupt, sheep alderman have their say.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
I believe it it most obnoxious to stop anyone unless you can truthfully articulate a reasonable suspension that crime is afoot, without relying on that person's race.
8/27/2013 08:17:00 AM
Crime is afoot? A trolling, stupid liberal jagoff who would not know a crime if it hit him in the face, which is probably will. And, who do you think he will call, crying?
8/27/2013 11:32:00 PM
Hey first poster dimwit! WTF is a 'reasonable SUSPENSION'? Go back to your liberal arts college.
Lets see,no stand your own ground,no CCW,no Castle doctrine,no gun ownwership and now no terry v ohio.
I see a pattern.
8/27/2013 12:01:00 PM
one step closer to martial law and socialism.
Uhhhh, just the opposite
8/27/2013 02:37:00 PM
" Stop and frisk" here has always been you can stop someone, question them and if you think they have a weapon pat them down.
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Not without a reasonable suspicion, you can't frisk them.
Anonymous said...
I believe it it most obnoxious to stop anyone unless you can truthfully articulate a reasonable suspension that crime is afoot, without relying on that person's race.
8/27/2013 08:17:00 AM
Crime is afoot? A trolling, stupid liberal jagoff who would not know a crime if it hit him in the face, which is probably will. And, who do you think he will call, crying?
8/27/2013 11:32:00 PM
What is "reasonable suspension that crime is afoot?" Is that the Dr Scholl Law?
But really now, never once in 27 years did I ever go in court and say :Your honor, I saw this guy here slide a plastic baggie into his pocket and I knew because he be black that it must be dope and upon a proper lab test it did in fact prove to be 27 grams of heroin."
"I also knew it was dope because it was a known dope corner and the shitheads (black people) are the dope slingers and most of the customers are suburban white people."
So, since I saw right off that my suspension of dope slinging was afoot I arrested the mother fucker who said to me "go fuck yourself white ass mother fucker poleese."
When we got to court his slick long haired shylock hippie lawyer demanded a finding of no probable cause and the judge promptly granted same whereupon I got my time due slip signed for my overtime and I left, like always.
Anonymous said...
Punitive damages for lawful arrests? Really? Are you sure it wasn't from the 'creative writing' that goes on or the fact that some people have selective memory when it comes to the 4th amendment?
see California case State v. O.J. Simpson
NYPD here. Proactive policing is dead in new york.
Best of luck until the pendulum swings back our way again.
welcome to Chicago politics and the slime they call the aclu. Good luck guy's the world is a shit sandwich and your taking a big bite.
Well hello Lena. Welcome to our little blog. Furthermore welcome to the good old U S of A.
If you want to encounter some really nice cops, I suggest you come to Chicago and visit a little bistro we call Beatrice's.
You will meet a group of cops who will be so friendly, you will forget all about NYC. You will also learn the joys of PBRs and Kesslers.
You will also meet women that use yoga mats to train their dogs.
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