Breaking Down the Video
From the video vault:
Slowing down and counting the instances of asking, reasoning and ordering the offender from the bus is enlightening. So is watching the offender's hand movement and actions that can only be construed as aggressive in nature. Looking at this video again only reinforces the fact that the cop showed admirable restraint and "reasonableness" in confronting a lawbreaking individual.
So where is J-Fed's "having our backs"? Hasn't Shortshanks told him what to do yet? Daley's been back in town for a whole day. Maybe he's not taking J-Fed's calls?
Slowing down and counting the instances of asking, reasoning and ordering the offender from the bus is enlightening. So is watching the offender's hand movement and actions that can only be construed as aggressive in nature. Looking at this video again only reinforces the fact that the cop showed admirable restraint and "reasonableness" in confronting a lawbreaking individual.
So where is J-Fed's "having our backs"? Hasn't Shortshanks told him what to do yet? Daley's been back in town for a whole day. Maybe he's not taking J-Fed's calls?
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posted by SCC at 6:14 AM
208 Comments:
Excellent!! maybe you should take a leave, start filming criminals, and show the our side, narrating as you go along. It could be a reality TV series. I will be happy to be your agent. You did good SCC!! SW
Me thinks you doth protest too much.
Let it go...
Don't Cozzi this officer Jody. God help this city if you do.
So where is J-Fed's "having our backs"?
As if...Don't hold your breath waiting for his response...all talk..
Why have there been no public words of support from Superintendent Jody Weis for our officer in the video?
Superintendent Weis, you promised you had our backs, I heard you sir, you said so very recently in that video I watched at roll call, you said you had our backs.
This is your chance sir to show us all that you truly stand behind us Superintendent Weis. Show us sir. Show us you support us when we need you. Please sir, show us you have our backs.
We shouldn’t have to beg
OUR FAT LITTLE BITCH mAYOR doesnt have the BALLS to stand up for this Copper. With the SHIT treatment we get from this SHITTY and civilians like this cameraBITCH there should be absolutly no activity like this going on by us. But as you can see SOME of us still know HOW and WHEN to be the POLICE when we're needed.Good for you Officer and good for Us.
Oh and by the way,FUCK YOU JODI!
SCC--Just as it gets harder to sometimes go to work day in and day out, It's nice to know someone has our back. Thanks and BRAVO for the video breakdown.
Excellent analysis.
Suntimes editorial actually on our side this time. Hell has frozen over!
www.suntimes.com/news/commentary/1440825,CST-EDT-edit20.article.
Good job officer!
GREAT point! WHERE ARE YOU, JFED??? He always has said if we were in the right, he'd "have our back" NOW WHERE IS HE NOW??? And unlike Cozzi incident, THIS is where the officer acted appropriately, professionally, and this tape will exonerate him of any wrong doing!
two p/o,s working an out post at 95th. ryan cta station were ticked for sixty bucks each. dept. of revenue. said pay the ticket your not doing a police function. as my Lt. said there more of us then them!!! remember they don,t give copppers breaks!!! they will put the ticket over your fop sticker. fuck them!!!!!!!
GREAT JOB OFFFICE!
Awesome SCC! This is the version that the media should be playing non stop on every news channel. Did everyone see the sheep running towards the back of the bus. None of these outstanding Shitcago citizens had any balls to assist the officer in making the arrest. Unbelieveable!!!
Wow even the Scum- times said the officer was rude but "this was not brutality". Have they been reading SCC.
As member of the general public and a former CTA motorman who has seen how these degenerates are,who visits this site regularlly and who admires and is thankful for the job that you men&women do on a daily basis and the shit you put up with. I see NOTHING WRONG with how the officer handled this situation. Wasn't it not long ago that you lost someone that was working a 1 man car the was at a bus situation?
And for the ASSHAT that wanted the officers number, maybe they should have run his ass into jail for interferring with the arrest of the other guy.
If this officer is ever susoended over this incident, SCC make sure that there is a post on here and I will donamte to his cause.
Boys and Girls in blue wait for a back up . do not respond to domestics ,alarms etc without a back up. That's why the city isn't hiring more officers because we do an excellent job , but we are putting our lives on the line
stay safe and God Bless
I couldn't hear the audio at the end that well, did the camera man say he was from PETA?
OMG!....If they hang this copper...i call bullshit!!...He did NOTHING WRONG..If this guy takes any time whatsoever, his fellow officers in 018 better organize one hell of a benefit.Check our use of force guide...he followed it to the fucking letter!!!
Fantastic! We need to see more like this. Let's start to have camera crews of our own out there to show what it is really like out there. I am really tired of " I'm being oppressed. I'm a victim." Can the cameraman be sued for recording on a bus without the officer's consent?
I dont understand why someone from the department cant step up and say something about this. The only thing that will jam up this copper i bet is language, but someone needs to step up and maybe explain to the public/media our use of force policies and that no excessive force was used at all. Maybe after that the low lifes out there will also realize that the police CAN put their hands on you and its not wrong.
In no way did this Officer do anything wrong. If anything, he displayed a lot of restraint in dealing with this situation.
Fuck J-Fed. The Sun Times editorial backs this cop. They just bef about his language and "rudeness". The Sun Times! Fucking J-Fed. Take a stand. You too FOP!!!
FUCKING OUTSTANDING.
NICELY DONE,SCC!
This video proves that the officer used enough force to effect the arrest and get this bastard off the bus. J-FED , you had better have his back on this one . If you throw him under the bus there will be NOBODY that will ever work again on this job .
Rude!!! Thats what the papers are calling the officer for his use of profanity. Ya gotta be kidding. I get called the most vile names daily trying to do this job. The use of Fuck by the officer was meant to impress on this offender that the situation had escalated to something more than mere disorderly conduct. It was used as an attention getter. Based on the papers' reaction, it worked!!
I'll bet anybody a burrito this guy is getting 30days . The media is drooling over this.
Given that the Sun-Times editorial board has an editorial today in support of the officer (or at least noting that it isn't brutality), J-Fed's silence is even more disturbing.
Lets analyze this too,
The cost of showing up and just throwing the bum off the bus and coming back up clear(including travel time) = about .25 man hours. Well, thats not an option anymore. Now a lot of coppers wont touch anyone without a signed complaint because of nonsense like this video.
The cost of locking up the bum:
Travel time to call, arrest, and to station: .50-.75 man hours (x2 if 10-4, if 99 and wagon is used add 1 hour for the two people on the wagon(.5 hour transport x2).
Processing (including inventories) .75-1 hour (x2 if 10-4).
If lockup wont take mr. bum because he needs his food tray,, ugh I mean meds (the ones hes been without for months) add about 4 hours (x2 if 10-4) for a hospital run. If they take him, he sits for about 4-6 hours until hes clear and then the desk sgt has to do his thing (about .25 sgt hours, .5 if there are inventories to be released (includes cpts time for release).
Worst case scenario with a hospital visit your looking at around 12 man hours to take care of this bum. THE TIMES ARE JUST FOR A GENERAL REFERENCE, some work faster, others work slower. But you get the point.
When it all goes to court what do you think happens to mr. bum??? You guessed it, NOTHING!!! So all that time wasted on a court case that will get dismissed.
I sure hope mr police monitor doesn’t get beaten and or robbed while were all in processing every bum that wont leave the buses, trains, or any other property.
He did show restraint. If it was me I would be at call back as we speak. One question did he onview it or was it assigned? Where was his backup?
Yes he did show restraint, however, he'll get nailed for swearing at that POS.
The best part about all of this is that the officer is gonna make twice as much from the benefit that' will be thrown for him. That's gonna piss off J-Pud. Sign me up!
Office, make sure you go to court.
As for the "cameraman", one has to wonder if this was a set-up. He just happened to be on the bus where a guy didn't pay his fare?
Remember people, cameras are everywhere. Be safe.
Remember what happened to P.O. Richard Francis? That incident started in almost the same manner. Where was that shithead cameraman then?
Make sure you go home safely each night, people.
Sun Times editorial says "Cop Rude, but Not Brutal".
http://www.suntimes.com/news/commentary/1440825,CST-EDT-edit20.article
Seems like a fair judgment to me.
He used some naughty language. Probably having a bad day. In that district many days are bad.
The rest was all appropriate.
The only REAL question I have is whether he should have waited for backup and that is a judgment call.
That drunk is making it harder for people to get where they are going.
that was a much better version of what happened. the citizens will never understand what we deal with everyday. thanks for doing your job officer. i hope that guy had a nice time in the lock-up. i'm sure he slept well. great job!!!
Thank you for providing that learning video.
Civil war is coming
Anarchy is going to spiral out of control, with Different factions split all over the place.
It's always good to see these videos in context. I think we have all been on buses with some rather imposing and scary individuals. I think the officer acted professionally and I hope he is not punished for acting so.
Have I ever told you that you're my hero!!!
Good for that officer. He did his job and he did it well!
Supt. Weis....where are you?
How come SCC is not covering the odpo that got home invaded in 008 yesterday afternoon by some gangbangers?
you see homeless do cause problems
http://chicagohomelessexperience.blogspot.com/2008/04/its-not-popular-to-say-you-hate.html
I work in that district and this copper is a nice guy, just doing his job. Beat 1892A is the tow bike, so that officer didn't have to respond to that call at all. He decided to answer the call. Remember the officer, that got killed at Belmont and Western at a CTA disturbance, when it was not his call, trying to do the right thing. The homeless female that got to his gun, and killed the officer. Now let's talk about manpower. How many officers should it take to get a drunk, who did'nt pay, and won't get off a bus? Be very carefulj how you answer! The officers who work the streets are watching this one real close. CTA calls everyday for calls such as as this. Or maybe CTA special employment should handle all of those calls. But can the bus driver and passengers, wait that long?
Looks like the Sun-Time is stepping up. They have a really well-reasoned editorial on the video - http://www.suntimes.com/news/commentary/1440825,CST-EDT-edit20.article - and explain why it's not police brutality
if this officer gets anything less than an award it would be a crime.
i would have beat the bums ass after the first request to get off the bus.
want to see the camera guy work the west side bus lines, roosevelt rd, madison, etc. that would be funny video to see, fucker would would not last a week out west.
that is awesome scc.....please post that on youtube..
Bravo, officer, and kudos to SCC for clarifying this to the public!
Nice job SCC...
Well done Office and well done SCC! With the screaming skull leaving to the schools, maybe you should put in for the media affairs job. We could use someone with some brass in that spot.
Good video analysis! Watched the original video that was made by the camera man. Complete BS. When watching every detail and listening carefully, the officer did have much restraint considering the pontential dangerous situation. Good job with the video defense and evidence defending the officer.
maybe we should let people do as they please! I guess we are supposed to ask the guy 30 fucking times to leave the bus! FUCK THIS CITY!!! BUNCH OF BLEEDING HEART LIBERAL PUSSIES
i work the north side and have seen, many times, people filming incidents.
i wounder when the home owners in the area will realize anything that impedes the police cannot help their property value.
if i was a local home/condo owner i would make these jr. revolutionaries feel my pain.
I bought the CPD t-shirt "old school" for a retired sgt who is a good friend of mine. He was out of town and was wearing the shirt and a woman said to him "I like shirt, but what does it mean?" He smiled and said "We only ask you once."
17 times, was that the final count on this? This officer did a fine job and showed far more patience then that bustout deserved, but this is the environment that the liberal media and ambulance chasing lawyers have created. your sgt should put you in for an honorable mention.
I haven't seen JPUD's reasonablness video yet but from what I have heard he is so full of shit, its coming out his ears!!! If he had our backs, this would be a perfect opportunity to stand up and show his character. I order not to compromise OPS' alleged investigation he could have said something like, "the matter is being investigated BUT, from what I have seen the officer acted [reasonable, professional, appropriate]."
Did he choose to do this??? NO, he instead choose to stand on the sidelines, let this officer's good name and professional career be slandered.
JPUD, IF YOU REALLY HAD OUR BACKS THIS WAS YOUR CHANCE AND YOU BLEW IT!!!! This just goes to show anybody doing any real policework these days is softer that puppie shit.
Still handle your jobs, answer your calls, but do it with the least bit of action as possible. Its just not worth being Monday morning quarterbacked everytime you take a lawful action and handle a situation the exact way you were taught in the academy. This City, its leaders, its citizens and its media DO NOT LIKE THE POLICE, let JPUD and his new fleet of homeland security cameras go out there and bust their ass for the ungrateful public, because I sure am done, and I was a worker but my patience is worn thin.
Any police officer who buys a Times or a Trib in this city is a fool. I stopped at least a year ago. Anything you need to read can be found online.
"So where is J-Fed's "having our backs"?
If your clouted up he'll have your back. Otherwise he's going stick the knife it so hard it'll split you clavicle.
This clown wouldn't know the word Integrity if it jumped up & bit him in the Ass!!
Jody was 100% behind the copper who shot at the jag gangbangers who shot at his house. I'm sure he will be behind this copper also. It's not hard to stand behind someone when they are right we need Jody when there is some grey area. But this is a good step in the right direction.
off topic_
what's the story with the guy who shot into the copper's house? charged w/ 3 misd.?
They should make this a training video so all the yes sir, no sir, 5 parkers a day and 1 mover robots can see what real policework is. Excellent job officer.
Does this look like a set-up to anyone? He even reached in his pocket to try to intimidate the officer further and the other passengers moved so the "cameraman" could get a clearer shot?
By my count, the officer respectfully asked the POS to get off the bus more times than he dropped the f-bomb. I'm also wondering why the do-gooder 'cameraman' didn't just pay the guy's fare to eliminate the situation entirely.
great job officer. glad you didn't get hit from that piece of shit. don't trust anybody and always be careful. let's all go home safe at night.
that p.o did everything right. the only thing they will get him on, which is no big deal is the verbal part. we all know that it is bullsh*t but they will get him for that.. what will he get, a spar, reprimand, a day...who cares about that. otherwise he did everything right and did a very good job. suprisingly, the sun times wrote an article in todays paper saying that the officer did good work and the actions are nowhere close to brutality or wrong doing. you know he did a great job if the sun times even agrees with it! well officer, very good job and youve got nothing to worry about. hopefully if they give you a day for the verbal part you put it right on the beginning of your weekend. stay safe out there.
Big deal he swore....I was in the academy in the early 90's and thats what they taught us to do...not this verbal judo bullshit.
If he takes time...I say BLUE FLU!
JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH THE 014TH DIST DESK AND THEY ARE PREPARING YOUR HONORABLE MENTION
Lets start "gangbanger watch.org" or "corner drug dealer.org" and place them on u-tube and show the world what were really up against.
This Is Why Second City Cop Must Continue to Exist.
CPD Needs a Voice.
It does not get it through FOP.
Keep Up The Good Work.
Outstanding play by play commentary SCC.
SCC,
Now yerr talkin! Nice post!
Outstanding.
I have to say.. after I first saw the video it looked pretty bad ... but that breakdown really explains it well and it seems very reasonable...
"Me thinks you doth protest too much.
Let it go...
2/20/2009 06:46:00 AM"
One error in your post.
The part about you thinking.....
OUR FAT LITTLE BITCH mAYOR doesnt have the BALLS to stand up for this Copper. With the SHIT treatment we get from this SHITTY and civilians like this cameraBITCH there should be absolutly no activity like this going on by us. But as you can see SOME of us still know HOW and WHEN to be the POLICE when we're needed.Good for you Officer and good for Us.
Oh and by the way,FUCK YOU JODI!
2/20/2009 07:16:00 AM
This is a very good description.
OUR LITTLE FAT BITCH MAYOR
OUR LITTLE FAT BITCH MAYOR
OUR LITTLE FAT BITCH MAYOR
OUR LITTLE FAT BITCH MAYOR
FROM NOW ON THIS IS HOW HE WILL BE REFERED .
The first time that bum reached into his pockets I would have snatched him up, I was suprised to see he let the bum reach into his pockets like that. Just shows how it could have gone. The officer acted appropriately. The F word has its place on the streets, its all some people understand and often times the emphasis it places upon the situation leads to force NOT being used. Be safe out there.
Good job SCC! Too bad our own union leaders couldn't do the same! Then again why would they start now? They have never spoke out in anyone's behalf or shown any type of support for us. You don't get paid to do this but our union leaders get paid well. SAD! Hopefully J-(we got your back)Fed and his band of liers see's this as a non incident. Just a copper doing his job. It's a big nothing! The copper did a good job.
Pieces of crap like that should not be on the bus. Cheers to the PO.
God Bless the Chicago Police.
"Police Commissioner Charles H. Ramsey said he saw little fault with the department's procedures. He said Pawlowski, 25, a five-year veteran, had followed department rules when he approached Scruggs, who fired a gun hidden in his pocket. The fatal bullet struck Pawlowski in the chest, above his Kevlar vest. "The officer did everything that he should have done," Ramsey said. "He had his vest on. He responded to a call. He's ordering the guy to take his hands out of his pockets. He doesn't see a weapon, so the weapon's fired before has a chance to really react."
THE SHITBAG ON THE BUS PUT HIS HANDS IN HIS POCKETS THATS ENOUGH FOR ME, THAT PUTS ME IN DANGER,,, NICE WORK OFFICER.
What if he was recorded saying to the drunk "We're trying to get the Olympics here, now get the fu@k off the bus." Promotion?
This is why no matter what J-Fed, the screaming skull, Dugan, etc. etc. say in a video we will never trust THEM PERIOD! We have heard nothing from them about this incident. NOTHING! This guy did nothing WRONG! If they can't say something about this completely simple incident it just goes to show you that we are alone out here. How can we expect them to back us if they can't even do it on something so silly as this. A simple press release saying "the officer did a good job and was completely within the use of force guidelines." Instead they would rather spend their time investigating who did the fake honorable from 014. What joke this department has become!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Any police officer who buys a Times or a Trib in this city is a fool. I stopped at least a year ago. Anything you need to read can be found online.
2/20/2009 01:06:00 PM
What took you so long!!
OT--
ABC-Channel 7 News just now -- three people shot at 87th and Escanaba.
Chicago 2016!
When I came on the job, we had a white stripe down the side of our pants, every job was a paper job (even if unfounded) and the guys we learned the most from, were guys like 1892-A. Good job Officer!
If he takes any time, let me know where to send a donation.
The ST editorial stops way short of praising the copper, but it did say more good things about him that the Supt. did. Does anyone else find that strange?
DAMN U GOOD WITH DAT COMPUTER!
THE CITY SHOULD GIVE U A JOB THEY HAVE A POLICE WEBSITE THAT BLOWs.
ALL IT LIST IS COOKIE CUTTER HONORABLE MENTION THAT WERE CUT AND PASTED AND SCAN 501 PAXES THAT R SCANNED AT THE WRONG RESULTION!
DID U NOTICE THE OFFICERS QUICK STUN MOVE THOU?
Don't Cozzi this officer Jody. God help this city if you do.
2/20/2009 07:02:00 AM
he cant cozzi him... this was an actual OFFENDER that actually DID SOMETHING WRONG and was not HANDCUFFED! GOD, PLEASE STOP WITH THIS COZZI NONSENSE!!!
Good thing this guy didnt pull a Cozzi! NICELY DONE OFFICE!!!
A "Tip of the Hat, and a Wag of the Finger" to 1892A.
A Tip of the Hat for doing a great job.
A Wag of the Finger for asking 17 times to get off the bus. Three, the magic number is three.
scc...just a little math for you to think about. the city has the new articulated bus fleet of 226 busses that is out of service. this is the second time they have been out of service and the city only purchased them 6 months ago. the city package that chicago paid was about 422,000 for each bus including gps, bell systems, and cameras. so in the past six months while the city and cta are crying broke they paid about 95,372,000(226 busses X 422,000) for this fleet of busses that obviously are not going to last very long if they have been pulled off the streets twice in six months. the cta is in the headlines again saying another "doomsday" for the cta is looming and they city cant afford to support it anymore. how come obama has not yet paid its tab for election night... which im sure will not be paid and will slip away and be included in the "stimulus money" richie will get from the package. buisness as usual. we have no contract, the city is "broke" and daley is buying almost 96 million dollars worth of broken busses that will have to be replaced in 7-14 years...not the 20-25 years that was initially expected and guaranteed to the city....not in writing of course.
No support, No contract, No work
Someone should film what you deal with in our city on a daily basis. Turn the tables on these assholes.
God Bless You Officer---Okay everyone, if this copper hangs for this We All need to come together for him---I say we picket City Hall peacefully!! Its our right! This officer was extremely professional then when the bum didn't comply to his lawful order he had to take it a level up--Too bad the officer didn't have a taser--that would have solved it instantly!! Come on Jody you need to allow everyone to have tasers!
After that video, I am gonna go right out and be the first responder to any disturbance calls on the CTA... YEAH, RIGHT!!!! A that a boy to the liberal puke camera man... you just made riding the CTA that much less safe for yourself and the rest of the people that rely on CTA for transportation.
Any one gonna investigate if the liberal prick paid the bum to get on the bus illegally so he could film the incident. The officer should look into this and sue little junior liberal camera man. Mommy and daddy probably got deep pockets!
Dropping the F-bomb on camera like that, where I work he'd have a long five minutes in the sergeant's office and then a public pat on the back for the rest of it being good policework.
That's why I ain't been in Chicago in years. The PO should have made this putz a cheeseburger.
OT--
TRIPLE HOMICIDE
87th and Escanaba
Victims all male, ages 13, 14, 17.
Chicago 2016!
Three teens fatally shot at 87th & Escanaba, NFI.
If this PO gets suspended and a benefit is organized on his behalf, I have a band that will provide live music for the occasion. Keep us posted on the blog and I'll be in touch if it happens.
Signed,
A fellow sworn
I'll tell you where Mr. fed is, he is with shanks and OrBozo installing more cameras. Christmas season will be here in 9 months and we must make sure we catch all of the kettle snatchers.
Don't go on distubance calls 99. Don't work 99 on midnights. Make the city fill the manpower shortages.
for january the supt boasted that homicides were down 30 percent from the same time last year...well as of today with the triple in 004 we will now surpass the number from this time last year... we jumped almost 43% homicides since the supt gave those numbers a few weeks ago. if this trend keeps up(which it will because its only gonna get warmer from here on out) then we will surpass last years count. these are official numbers via clear system.
SCC should recieve an award for journalism. I no longer need to buy a paper to get the real deal.
Shitbird didnt listen, he got locked up. Whats the big deal? The officer did not harm him, whats not
to like ?
I thought the worst when this jag reached into his pockets. The officer's reaction time as compared to his could have created an unpleasant situation. Thank God that all we are talking about is some strong language.
A little cheesy but I think it fits: The public does not want to admit how much they need us. Son, we live in a world that has walls and those walls need to be guarded by men with guns. I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago and curse the Marines; you have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives and that my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use then as the backbone of a life trying to defend something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you," and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest that you pick up a weapon and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to...
Anonymous said...
This Is Why Second City Cop Must Continue to Exist.
CPD Needs a Voice.
It does not get it through FOP.
Keep Up The Good Work.
2/20/2009 02:31:00 PM
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Sad to say but the FOP is the one that should have responded to this video. The FOP should have broken this down for the news media and public.
The FOP should begin to step up to the plate and begin defedning every officer that is accused and tried in the media by doing what SCC has done; break the scenerio down for all to see that these officers are acting within the letter of the law.
Anonymous said...
If this PO gets suspended and a benefit is organized on his behalf, I have a band that will provide live music for the occasion. Keep us posted on the blog and I'll be in touch if it happens.
Signed,
A fellow sworn
2/20/2009 05:35:00 PM
If the PO gets suspended for this I will insist on backup and a supervisor with Taser on scene before I set foot on a bus.
I asked the individual whom took and posted the video how he would have handled the situation and this is the response I got. Apparently a person who uses the word "douchbaggery" knows more about the use of force than the Chicago Police Dept does.
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By following the protocol described by use of force guidelines which determine that in a non-lethal control situation you must first mitigate risk. In most situations this means wait for backup before engaging a suspect. Simple solution to avoid pointless violence. Copwatch understand that the officer is allowed to use discretion in all situations like this but anyone who is familiar with use of force will know that he failed to react in an acceptable way. Copwatch has never called this police brutality and never will. It is misconduct and douchebaggery but not brutality. The brutal part is that this is how people of color and low incomes are treated everyday.
Bet dude that filmed this paid the bum.
yeah, and what's GOING to happen is NOTHING. You'll never hear FukFed open his skull to speak a WORD of this in public.
If that shithead shows up in my district to give an "attaboy" speech away from public view I'll be getting my first insubordination CR for telling that shithead to SUCK MY DICK
you wont take time for just swearing....its a behavioral intervention (just counseling of the officer and not a CR #) He did everything right and no officer was hurt, thats the most important thing....i see no basis for a CR initiation....if there is one, Jody has lots of splainin to do!!!!! Stay Safe
Great work by the officer, should get a promotion
You'd really want the help of a civilian in a case like that? I would think that a civilian offering help in this instance would just be a (potentially dangerous)distraction to the responding PO. I think the best thing a civilian could've done in this situation is to take the camera guy's cellphone and toss it out the window : )
Thank you fine officer for always doing your job. You are the example that has been lacking for the past 20 years.
The reactions and comments about this incident cannot validate any further the tremendously sad and pathetic state this department, as one whole, is in.
There is no doubt in my mind that each of us working within different units encounter such disrespect and unlawful behavior beginning the minute we walk out the door of our residences.
The non reaction of support on behalf of our exempt continually proves that no one should ever become a chicago police officer. The exempt will beat you down no matter what you do, and it slowly wears you down as your life passes you by.
How long did it take J-Fed to completely exonerate Cuello and her daughter..maybe a full ten minutes or so....? This officer did nothing wrong and he should have been given an atta boy by some department Exempt....Who has our back..please one more time?
Chalkie is back from hibernation.
And he's hungry.
OT BUT THIS SUCKS:
A clout-heavy city inspector who built a new home without installing a water meter has been slapped with a $7,640 water bill amid word that he also has been cited for installing an underground sprinkler system without a permit.
Richard Kus' overdue bill includes more than five years' worth of water and sewer fees, along with interest and penalties, for the home with a hot tub that he built in the 5500 block of South Natoma.
The rest of the story is in the times,and this house was built by a guy making $85,000 a year.You got to see this house.You will know which one it is as soon as you see it.
good job from the 018 copper. friend of mine ,he gave the pos too much freedom of choice. first hand in the pocket, it would have been on. best thing was every one went home safe. j-fed watch and learn, this why crime was down before you came here. we did our job and people appreciated it. now your way we are guilty and the pos gets a check. we are not Andy Frain ushers, we are the CHICAGO POLICE, let us do our jobs. people are getting tired of all the crime that is happening.
jfed and dick daley, i hope there is a special place in hell for both of you!
b safe and watch every one's back
now that the bids are in when does the fax come out saying who got what.....
This may have been covered already but was this a set up? I find it
convenient that the camera was already running and POS has the
whole episode on quality recording.
Regardless, Thanks for all your hard work Officers.
he cant cozzi him... this was an actual OFFENDER that actually DID SOMETHING WRONG and was not HANDCUFFED! GOD, PLEASE STOP WITH THIS COZZI NONSENSE!!!
2/20/2009 04:45:00 PM
Nonsense?? I hope you're kidding. Cozzi answered for what he did and still got hammered by this dirty fucking J-fed. Get off the blog, it's for the real police.
Excellent Job Officer.........
I think you must know Dave Snethen!!
with the triple homicide in 004 today we are at the same count as last year.
If I get the Log number on this one it will be an automatic, exonerated and then I would probably put that officer in for an honorable mention for holding his head up high and having to deal with all this media attention and lack of gold star intervention on his behalf. Man, the upper level command staff (JPUD and the rest of his gold star flunkies) are really a bunch of pussies.
signed,
a Sergeant
Me thinks you doth protest too much.
Let it go...
2/20/2009 06:46:00 AM
Maybe that is what the problem is...people like you who want to let it go.. We need to make a stand for ourselves cause noone else will. I am tired of people telling us how to do our job. Do we ever tell bus driver, teacher, a doctor how they should have do their job?
Surprisingly the Sun-Times even has our side on this..
Does anyone know if Jfed and the mayor do???? BUELLER BUELLER. Sure they have our backs..
1892A - Excellent Job!!! You did what you had to do...These freakin idiots who record the shit think the world is full of roses and wonderful people. They don't know that this world is full of evill people. I hope copwatch burns itself down...Karma is a bitch.
we jumped almost 43% homicides since the supt gave those numbers a few weeks ago. if this trend keeps up(which it will because its only gonna get warmer from here on out) then we will surpass last years count. these are official numbers via clear system.
2/20/2009 05:56:00 PM
The weather is not even warm yet...can't wait for spring/summer...even the mutts know are morale is down
A little cheesy but I think it fits: The public does not want to admit how much they need us. Son, we live in a world that has walls and those walls need to be guarded by men with guns. I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago and curse the Marines; you have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives and that my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use then as the backbone of a life trying to defend something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you," and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest that you pick up a weapon and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to...
2/20/2009 06:49:00 PM
Beautifully said,, maybe someone should post this on Copwatch
Why have there been no public words of support from Superintendent Jody Weis for our officer in the video?
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Yet the day after the story breaks about Aunt Bea he's quoted in the media that "I see no culpability on her part in this. She has my support."
But a blue shirt gets video tapped answering his call by following the use of force model and takes it up a notch by yelling at the bum to either leave the bus or he'll get arrested and then announces the arrest and where is Jody? Why waiting to get his script from ShortShanks, co -editors are the store front preachers.
Worse than all the b.s. lawsuits COMBINED!
Deadbeatonomics: Obama stiffs Chicago for $1.74M
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/20/deadbeatonomic-obama-stiffs-chicago-for-127m/
Three killed on SE side today. Hope Jody doesn't choke on his words about the 30% drop in homicides. This tool has no idea what a factor weather is in Chicago violent crime.
he cant cozzi him... this was an actual OFFENDER that actually DID SOMETHING WRONG and was not HANDCUFFED! GOD, PLEASE STOP WITH THIS COZZI NONSENSE!!!
2/20/2009 04:45:00 PM
What you sir don't understand is that Cozzi WAS punished by the depart. and the State. J-FED was not happy with the end results and took it Federal. That's the Cozzi issue, dummy. If J-Fed doesen't like the results here, he can take it federal. Think about that next time you answer up from your parents computer.
This was just on channel 2 news.
There are some big questions about a phantom jail in Cook County. No inmates. No staff. And yet for years, millions of dollars have been set aside to fund it.
Chief Correspondent Jay Levine reports.
To Officer 10677:
Great job handling the bus disturbance.
To Spencer Thayer:
I’m a retired PO. I encountered your type regularly during a 25-year career in a north suburb inhabited mostly by liberals. You are insecure. In awe of the police, but hateful toward them. Perhaps you were once arrested for some minor offense and just can’t let go of your resentment toward law enforcement.
You see, Spencer, the police are willing to confront the dregs of society and actually put their hands on them, on behalf of society, and do what needs to be done, like #10677 did (very admirably) in this case.
You, on the other hand, would piss yourself and run away if faced with a threat to your safety. This makes you feel inadequate and envious of the police. So you’ve dedicated yourself to discrediting law enforcement in any way you can, even recruiting bums off the street to stage bullshit confrontations with officers, so you can record the incidents and try to put your biased, liberal slant on them. When this works, it probably helps to relieve some of the inadequacy you feel. But it didn’t work for you this time, did it? When the public comments posted to your youtube rant were overwhelmingly supportive of the officer, you deleted them, didn’t you? Of course.
What are you going to do now, Spencer?
Hey - I know: Why don’t you leave the relative safety of your neighborhood some muggy evening this summer and take your camera into the ghetto and try to record some of the actual crime happening all around you. Since you are such a skilled camera operator, you should have no trouble capturing key evidentiary footage to help prosecute real bad guys.
Of course, you would never have the balls to attempt anything like that. Within minutes of your arrival, you’d be surrounded by savages who would rob you of your camera, and then use it to record themselves beating and stomping your punk ass, while laughing hysterically and chanting about the new president. If you survived the robbery and beating, you’d complain the police did not do enough to protect you.
Even other liberals aren’t swallowing your bullshit this time, Spencer. No one regards you as a hero. You're just another insignificant, whiny piss-ant with low self-esteem and too much time on your hands. We’re sorry you are so miserable. Why don’t you try looking for a real job?
Three more:
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/02/1-dead-2-wounded-in-southeast-side-shooting.html
By the book...
Look at what cops deal with all day.. The guy probably smelled like a wet piece of shit too. Then who in god knows what diseases this guy has? The cops in chicago are like zoo keepeers for sub-humans. They deserve a raise!!!!!!!!!!
Post it on YOU TUBE..
Check out this link... How true about the housing bail out.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=1041856849&play=1
Post it on YOU TUBE..
Can you even see the video? It's got a YouTube logo in the corner. It's already on YouTube.
Has anyone thought maybe the coppers were set up by the camera guy. It wouldn't take that much to hire a homeless guy for $20.00 and have him do that to see what kind of response the police would have. Kind of a coincident that the person from cop watch website to be on the bus at the same time and for this to happen. Made me wonder.
Three killed on SE side today. Hope Jody doesn't choke on his words about the 30% drop in homicides. This tool has no idea what a factor weather is in Chicago violent crime.
2/20/2009 10:00:00 PM
Victims 17, 15, and a 13 years old. The two older ones were FRESHMEN at Bowen High School?? Freshmen??
Civilian here--
I understand the problem with the homeless in the stations, and as a taxpayer, I think its terrible that that is allowed on many levels, not the least of which is I don't want to have to deal with them if I need to go in for any reason,
but I'm betting and I've witnessed at least 20 times.
Cops giving homeless people the benefit of the doubt and breaks. It probably happens 50 times a day across the city on a variety of things.
>>There used to be a cop at the Cathedral who was pretty good with them and I recall him being firm a couple of times, and he knew which ones were trouble it seemed.
If I had a chance to ask this officer, as just a normal joe citizen, what would have happened to the guy if he had just gotten off the bus, I'd make book on his answer being, "nothing,". He even says to the guy, maybe you can catch the next bus.
Provided the officer isn't unduly reprimanded, I think this idiot with the camera did you guys a favor in a way. Alot of middle of the road, common folks are saying,,,what the heck, this officer didn't do anything wrong,,,
I think that.
Kudos to that officer for doing his job and doing it well and exercising patience and restraint while protecting himself from a drunken attack.
This is the greatest attorney ever listen and watch this link about red cameras.
http://www.crimefilenews.com/2008/12/disabling-traffic-enforcement-cameras.html
WE R STILL WAITING FOR THE HULKING PERSONA OF THE J-FED TO APPEAR!!!
WHY DOES HE ONLY SPEAK WHEN HE IS TOLD TOO.
MONIQUE GIVE R PUSH UP PACKING GLUTE TIGHTING LEADER A FRICKING SCRIPT!
HE CANT BE SHAPING HIS EYEBROW 4 TWO DAYS!
WHEN HIS GIRL BLINKY BEA GOT CAUGHT UP HE WAS ON THE NEW IN HOURS.
HAVENT SEEN HER LATELY EITHER IS THERE A SECRET ENTRANCE AT 35TH ST.
WHAT ABOUT THE 2ND DEPUTY HE CANT DO A NEWS CONFERENCE? OR THE DEPTUIES THAT WERE NEVER THE POLICE, CANT THEY SPEAK THE R PAID MORE THAN ALDERMEN!
WHAT A BUNCH OF PHONY WANNA BE WHITE SHIRTS! ALWAYS WANT A SALUTE!
I SALUTE U WITH MY MIDDLE FINGER ON THE GREAT JOB U STROKES R DOING AT HEADQUARTERS MAY U NEVER RECIEVE UR GOLD BRAID PENSION!
SCC
I just watched your play by play of the video. Thanks for explaining it in terms we civilians can understand, even though alot of us could tell it wasn't near brutality.
Question: If we find ourselves in a situation like this, we obviously make sure the officers know they are being videotaped, but do we get involved ? If we see a cop getting hurt, I understand the answer is obviously yes, but do we actually in this case assist the officer, he seems to have it under control actually and a civilian coming up on him wouldn't maybe be the best thing to do ?
SCC: You need to make sure we keep up with this one. Everyone should have that officers back. If he gets into trouble over this BS we should as a group fight the decicion because any one of us would have done exactly as he did in this situation. In fact, you are right, the officer showed a lot more restraint than I would have so a pat on the back for making us look good out there is in order. Thank you Officer! Be safe!
WyoPD said...
Dropping the F-bomb on camera like that, where I work he'd have a long five minutes in the sergeant's office and then a public pat on the back for the rest of it being good policework.
That's why I ain't been in Chicago in years. The PO should have made this putz a cheeseburger.
2/20/2009 05:22:00 PM
HEY Mr/Ms "WyoPD"; as in the Great State of Wyoming? If so, anyone out there taking laterals?
" Anonymous said...
Fuck J-Fed. The Sun Times editorial backs this cop. They just bef about his language and "rudeness". The Sun Times! Fucking J-Fed. Take a stand. You too FOP!!!
2/20/2009 09:17:00 AM"
The officer was just conversing with the mope in language he would understand.
Welcome to the Real world asshat scumtimes guy.
The thing that pisses me off is this was a chance for J-Fed to step up right away and back this officer and by doing so reinforce his message that he has our backs. The silence out of 35th street has been damning.
My guess is he has been waiting to see the way the wind is blowing on this and now that it seems the media realizes the officer did nothing wrong (except for the swearing) J-Fed will shortly follow
with some mealy mouthed support for the way the officer handled the situation. As far as I am concerned if he does so it will be too little, too late. He blew this opportunity to stand up for the rank and file who do this dirty job everyday. Basically J-Fed does nothave a clue.
"The first time that bum reached into his pockets I would have snatched him up, I was suprised to see he let the bum reach into his pockets like that. Just shows how it could have gone. The officer acted appropriately. The F word has its place on the streets, its all some people understand and often times the emphasis it places upon the situation leads to force NOT being used. Be safe out there.
2/20/2009 03:42:00 PM"
I wonder if, during the coaching session that the prick with the video camera surely had with the offender, prior to the pair executing their little plan to try to entice an officer into what they obviously hoped would result in sufficient cause for a lawsuit to be filed, there was a suggestion made, to the offender, by the video prick, to, at some point in the anticipated scenario, put his hand into his pocket, or make some other, seemingly benign to the naive public, but all too familiar to the officer, potentially dangerous gesture.
has anyone asked this question. Why was the asshole ready with the camera on even before the copper went into the bus, maybe he set up the whole scenario hoping to cat a worthwhile video, i smell a rat and would sue that asshole for wiretaping /audio recording
jodi proved that he has no balls as a boss fails to realise that he can still turn all this around if he went to back for us, otherwise hell be remembered as the worst superintendent chicago ever had, and thats f-ed up
Copwatch has never called this police brutality and never will. It is misconduct and douchebaggery but not brutality. The brutal part is that this is how people of color and low incomes are treated everyday.
2/20/2009 07:23:00 PM
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If you speak the truth copwatch jag-off, I'll use your words and logic to also make an overbroad sweeping generalization.
My take on it.."The brutal part is that this is how people of color and low incomes (behave) everyday.
Now see how stupid your remark sounds!
Speaking of tickets. J-Fed was written a ticket for parking on a crosswalk. His vehicle was a SUV that went back to a rental company. He got the 2nd watch WC of 014 to take care of it. WC got on PA and yelled at the P/O who wrote it. P/o explains he didn't know who's vehicle it was. WC still bitched him out. SUV also had tinted windows.
It's almost a week since this went public and still NOT ONE WORD OF SUPPORT FROM OUR SUPERINTENDENT!
Remember him, he's the one proclaiming loudly and publicly he has our backs.
Where are you Jody, you coward piece of shit?
Beautifully said,, maybe someone should post this on Copwatch
It came from a movie.
SCC,
Congratulations on another job very well done.
And to the copper involved - God bless and great work. J-Fuck knows better than to fuck with you-and quite frankly, didn't seize upon the opportunity to come to your defense. If he speaks up now on your behalf, as far as I'm concerned, it is too late and would be phony as hell.
However, it is amazing just how fast he can speak up when it comes to one of his clouted exempt members.
JFed - please hear us - FUCK YOU!
Otherwise, I suggest that you pick up a weapon and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to...
2/20/2009 06:49:00 PM
Beautifully said,, maybe someone should post this on Copwatch
2/20/2009 09:25:00 PM
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Oh puhleeeze!! He stole that line from Jack Nicholson " A Few Good Men " movie..
If I get the Log number on this one it will be an automatic, exonerated and then I would probably put that officer in for an honorable mention for holding his head up high and having to deal with all this media attention and lack of gold star intervention on his behalf. Man, the upper level command staff (JPUD and the rest of his gold star flunkies) are really a bunch of pussies.
signed,
a Sergeant
2/20/2009 09:01:00 PM
I'm glad to know that a SGT. like you still exist... I'll be more than happy to go to any war with you.
Hey Thayer,
To misqoute a Seinfeld character: "No suit for you" --or that shady law firm you work for.
Looking at this video again only reinforces the fact that the cop showed admirable restraint and "reasonableness" in confronting a lawbreaking individual.
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The whole controversy shows there is a radically different view of what is reasonable between cops and average citizens.
These kind of videos help average citizens understand what is reasonable and what is not. You should be happy these kind of videos get distributed.
Anonymous said...
I asked the individual whom took and posted the video how he would have handled the situation and this is the response I got. Apparently a person who uses the word "douchbaggery" knows more about the use of force than the Chicago Police Dept does.
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By following the protocol described by use of force guidelines which determine that in a non-lethal control situation you must first mitigate risk. In most situations this means wait for backup before engaging a suspect. Simple solution to avoid pointless violence. Copwatch understand that the officer is allowed to use discretion in all situations like this but anyone who is familiar with use of force will know that he failed to react in an acceptable way. Copwatch has never called this police brutality and never will. It is misconduct and douchebaggery but not brutality. The brutal part is that this is how people of color and low incomes are treated everyday.
2/20/2009 07:23:00 PM
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Little Boy Spencer.
Your statement shows you have no idea what the use of force model is. We use the one made for Police, not the one liberals think we should have. Nice to see you are back tracking and now having to try the race card because you know you are wrong and you see 90 plus percent of the public know you are full of B.S. Even PETA, The ACLU, the NAACP and Obama Democrats know you are full of it and the Officer acted accordingly. You really should try a different line of work. Anybody who has to call themselves Thunderball has serious self esteem issues.
It sucks, but there are cameras everywhere and now virtually all cell phones have cameras in them. To ensure you don't get screwed out of your job, always follow the Use Of Force guidelines. This way, even if we are on camera, our actions will be 100% justified.
SCC,
Your edited video - genius, pure genius.
Thank you for taking the time.
I didn't see the officer do anything wrong. In fact, I think he did a good job.
For the people who critized the officer for being firm with this person, forget the danger he might have faced. Homeless, drunks and even those with a possible mental illness can be dangerous. This is a link to a story where the officer's kindness resulted in a vicious attack with a knife. We cannot relax our guard or forget safety.
http://www.policelink.com/news/articles/95805-deputy-knifed-after-giving-drunk-courtesy-ride-home?referral=pl_nlet_20090219u
They should make this a training video so all the yes sir, no sir, 5 parkers a day and 1 mover robots can see what real policework is. Excellent job officer.
1313 afternoons--r u listening
GUARD OF HONOR ("Taking Chance") HBO tonight.
A good T.V. movie at 7:00 p.m.
http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi113247001/
Kevin Bacon TAKING CHANCE Based on a true story
http://www.hbo.com/films/takingchance/
Thank you SCC for showing our
men in blue in action. I thought he handled himself fine and with complete professionalism.
I'm embarassed for the other men on the bus who could not even ask
the officer if he was okay, they were too busy running to the back, and the camera bitch too busy staring into his cell phone instead of ummmm I dont' know call 911 for the officer to get some help.
Like an earlier poster pointed out, do not go to these jobs alone
its obvious the citizens are not going to help you. We are a generation of pussies.
Peace to all my fine men and women out there who do this everyday.
Squad
Pieces of crap like that should not be on the bus. Cheers to the PO.
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They'll let any liberal with a camera on nowadays.
GCG
I definitely think the camera man should be calling the fire department the next time some drunk asshole punches him in the face for video taping some other BS...its a simple case of a do-gooder from the suburbs with a ton of white guilt trying to be for the people..hes an asshole.
Has anyone thought maybe the coppers were set up by the camera guy. It wouldn't take that much to hire a homeless guy for $20.00 and have him do that to see what kind of response the police would have. Kind of a coincident that the person from cop watch website to be on the bus at the same time and for this to happen. Made me wonder.
2/20/2009 11:22:00 PM
The only white guy on the bus??? I bet your right....
Awesome Video and Commentary!
I know Dave Snethen. I know him very well.
Now, kes me you fool!!!!
I am from an organization called JFAPB. It's fullname is Justice For All Piss Bums. We are appalled that one of our members was treated so rudely by this brut of a polie officer.
The poor man was so piss ass drunk he thought he was senior citizen and could ride for free. Please, during these tough economic times buy Streetwise, small bottles of liquor like you might find in a hotel mini bar, and Newport cigarettes for all our members. Charity begins at home and as government employees you have a duty to help the less fortunate.
Think about how many times coppers have been filmed everyday , by all these cell phone cameras and these cop watch fucks. This is all they have?
I proves how great a job coppers do every day. Why dont they post all the video captured, because it would prove how great the ones in blue perform every day!
The brutal part is that this is how people of color and low incomes are treated everyday.
People get treated the way they act, period!
Oh puhleeeze!! He stole that line from Jack Nicholson " A Few Good Men " movie..
WOW you should be a detective is you aren't one already....
To the sergeant who wants to exonerate the Log #. You will never see it. You only get Log #'s from IAD. IPRA investigates ALL allegations of excessive force. They will handle any beef from this incident. I too will go to war with you. I just won't let you do the paperwork!
"1313 afternoons--r u listening
2/21/2009 11:42:00 AM"
What???
The officer should have said excuse me sir but since you did not pay the required fare you must now exit the bus. If the man did not understand or did not want to get off the officer should have said but sir you did not pay therefore you cannot ride and kissed his ass until he could get through to the crazy son of a bitch. What the hell does the public want! I am a civilian and I along with many other people don't want these lunatics on the bus. I don't feel safe with these crazies on the bus. I ride the train too and I am shit scared when one of these crazy bums gets on let alone a ghetto asshole who thinks we have to tolerate his shit. I am very outspoken and an not afraid of the vial element but i see how these people take over public transtportation and scare people. Thank you officer for doing your job. Thank you for not dealing with this vagrants crap. Fuck those cop watcher assholes. I have enough stuff to deal with than to worry about some homeless crazy that smells like shit on the bus next to me. I am a good law abiding citizen and have never called attention to myself. I thank god everyday for the police officers that are out there putting their safety in jeapardy to keep me safe. I personally think that the police should have much more leway in how they handle people. Some of these SOB's need a good smack and a good in your face pounding. I am just about sick with how these criminals run rampant in our city. I wish the police could hand out street justice and maybe then these scumbags would be afraid to hurt people or commit crimes. No one is scared anymore. Everyone thinks that the law doesnt apply to them and they can do whatever they want. NO YOU CANT! RESPECT THE POLICE AND THEY LAWS THAT WE AS SOCIETY HAVE EMPOWERED THEM TO ENFORCE. You are not the exception!!!!! COPWATCH FuCK OFF
To the sergeant who wants to exonerate the Log #. You will never see it. You only get Log #'s from IAD. IPRA investigates ALL allegations of excessive force. They will handle any beef from this incident. I too will go to war with you. I just won't let you do the paperwork!
2/21/2009 09:53:00 PM
Thanks junior, I am so glad to have know-it-alls like you around to let me know how IAD and IPRA work. I know a case like this would not be immediately assinged to a Sgt (although they usually assign us the stuff that is bullshit) but as I said, "IF" they gave it to me I would exonerate it. You need to learn how to pay atention and worry about yourself and your partner, junior.
but someone needs to step up and maybe explain to the public/media our use of force policies
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is that policy a matter of public record?
in Rockford, the PD is claiming it is somehow exempt from public disclosure and refusing to release it.
Copwatch has never called this police brutality and never will. It is misconduct and douchebaggery but not brutality. The brutal part is that this is how people of color and low incomes are treated everyday.
2/20/2009 07:23:00 PM
Copwatch was created for such police brutality. Don't try to defend yourselve's now. You f&^%ed up and it backed fired on you idiots..why don't you go and film how these people of color and of low income sell drugs openly on corners in their neighborhoods and kill each other. Why don't you go live on one of their blocks and see how you shit in your pants...IDIOT
Beautifully said,, maybe someone should post this on Copwatch
It came from a movie.
2/21/2009 07:21:00 AM
I know
This video should be posted on COPWATCH
Otherwise, I suggest that you pick up a weapon and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to...
2/20/2009 06:49:00 PM
Beautifully said,, maybe someone should post this on Copwatch
2/20/2009 09:25:00 PM
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Oh puhleeeze!! He stole that line from Jack Nicholson " A Few Good Men " movie..
2/21/2009 08:18:00 AM
I know mush
The really sad part is the fact that it became necessary to spend time justifying the actions of this good man who was only attempting to do his job.
Bless him.... I hope this ridiculous waste of his time is quickly forgotten!!
I am a retired news cameraman and from my experience this video was staged. This was too perfect. I wonder what this vigilante group paid the drunk for getting arrested.
Good work.. He followed use of force to the T. I personally would have choked the shithead when he stuck his hand into his pocket, but the involved officer showed much more restraint then i would have had. What sucks is this officer is gonna catch a few days for this BS. If anyone knows him personally SCC please post if you hear this officer is gonna catch days. We will put up a collection at the sheriffs office to try and help him out a bit.. GOOD WORK.. You did nothing wrong.
Cook County Deputy Sheriff..
To the sergeant who wants to exonerate the Log #. You will never see it. You only get Log #'s from IAD. IPRA investigates ALL allegations of excessive force. They will handle any beef from this incident. I too will go to war with you. I just won't let you do the paperwork!
The beef will be about language since the use of force is absolutely in line with the use of force model, so the beef will come back to the district and the Sgt. will handle,
why is he sitting in the handicap seat?
This police officer was so patient and good with this bum-thief and did nothing wrong. That copwatch jerk thought he had something with that video, but didn't realize most of us saw what really happened, nothing. The officer, I thought, was nothing but nice to that asshole and asshole took advantage of it. There are so many of us non-cops that appreciate what police officers do, it's obvious from the responses, good, keep backing the police john-q public because they are the ones who will catch and charge the murderer who murders your loved one, they will catch the robbers, rapists and thiefs who terrorize this city every day. Thank you officers and detectives. That copwatch dude should go out west or out south with his camera. That camera won't be his long! Fuck that coward!
GOOD VIDEO AND POSTS,I JUST WISHED THAT LIITLE CAMERA BITCH WHOULD HAVE GOTTEN SNACHED !! YOU GUYS AND GIRLS KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK BEING THE POLICE.. BE CAREFUL OUT THERE..
C.C.S.P.D. #654
18-92-Adam can ride my bus anytime!
I understand that this bum, the one that got arrested, not the cameraman, has had 31 arrests.
Including one for FIRST DEGREE MUDRER for which he served 12 years of a life sentence.
The next time, I would like to see that bum, the one that got arrested, is when he arrested again, trying to sell a slightly used, slightly bloodstained digital video camera on the street or in a bar.
The next time, I would like to see that bum, the cameraman, is in the back of a CFD ambulance. He would be moaning through broken teeth that some bum, strangely familiar, had smashed his face and had stolen his camera. He would be whimpering "Where were the police?"
Maybe that would properly adjust his attitude or would want the badge numbers of the officers taking the report and say it was their fault.
Good Job Officer.
In a strange way that goof with the camera only proves it. I would like to know what camera-prick will do the next time. When the (fill in the blank) gets on the bus and sits next to him.
Will he get up and change seats.
Will he feel fear, will he know that this guy who got locked-up spent time in jail for murder.
Will he watch his hands, will he smell him. Will he glad to see a cop?
SORRY ABOUT MY SPELLING I WAS TYPING FAST...
methinks i found spencer thayer..
http://www.facebook.com/people/Spencer-Thunderball-Thayer/1120141633
From former Mass Transit Cop, good work officer.
Little tactical comment from someone who has had been there to do the same thing.
Don't challenge the goof to a fight, "Do you want to fight me!"
To a fuzzy headed jerk like this that could be like, DING! ringing the bell for the second round. Better to say something in your loud clear voice like, "Stop fighting me!" or "Do you want to walk off or get dragged off and if it takes ten more cops to do it I'll get them!"
Stay safe, again good work.
You have got to be kidding. If there is a beef because of this video, you will never see it in the district. IPRA will handle it no matter how minor the complaint. They will never let a sergeant in the district short cut this investigation. They will find some way to keep it from IAD for reassignment.
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